sign1 Well., that's what I see on most boxcars wround here, and that's what I noticed missing from your models! :cry: I though a lil' siggestion might help. As far as how they look around here...They're either VERY old (I saw an "Automated Railway UP box last weekend! Can't believe they're still out there! And the very new, UNTAGGED(!) ripply, shiny, new Railboxes and CP cars galore! (and this is in the Bay Area, California!