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"PaperLaul's Terminator 2: Hunter Killer Aerial - by DanBKing"
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@skoda It has been your builds, with all the layered texturing, that has inspired me, to do what I am doing with this model.
The model of the HK, when built from the template, is very "edgy" and I wish to achieve a smoother, more fluid finish.
Unfortunately, the joins between the paper parts and the textured panels do not match up.
Once assembled, the curves and contours of the model are very complex and to achieve a seamless run across a panel requires one piece of paper/card cut to the formed shape of the panel. On some of these panels, there are compound curves in all 3 directions at once...... Water is my friend here.. Make it damp and coerce the part to form. If the part is small enough, even the moisture from your fingers is enough....
The pic below demonstrates what I mean... The circled (white) panel is one complete piece, whereas the underlying texture has 4 seams across the panel.
I have got to get this right and get it all smoooooooth......
Because chrome finishes are a b***h to get right.....:meh:
One cat hair ....... That's all it takes .........
But, I do love my cat ............
The model of the HK, when built from the template, is very "edgy" and I wish to achieve a smoother, more fluid finish.
Unfortunately, the joins between the paper parts and the textured panels do not match up.
Once assembled, the curves and contours of the model are very complex and to achieve a seamless run across a panel requires one piece of paper/card cut to the formed shape of the panel. On some of these panels, there are compound curves in all 3 directions at once...... Water is my friend here.. Make it damp and coerce the part to form. If the part is small enough, even the moisture from your fingers is enough....
The pic below demonstrates what I mean... The circled (white) panel is one complete piece, whereas the underlying texture has 4 seams across the panel.
I have got to get this right and get it all smoooooooth......
Because chrome finishes are a b***h to get right.....:meh:
One cat hair ....... That's all it takes .........
But, I do love my cat ............
With my findings too......... I've tried all manufacturers that claim a "chrome finish".....
Alclad II..... The winner for me.........
This is a good tutorial vid about chroming with Alclad II........
@skoda It has been your builds, with all the layered texturing, that has inspired me, to do what I am doing with this model.
The model of the HK, when built from the template, is very "edgy" and I wish to achieve a smoother, more fluid finish.
Unfortunately, the joins between the paper parts and the textured panels do not match up.
Once assembled, the curves and contours of the model are very complex and to achieve a seamless run across a panel requires one piece of paper/card cut to the formed shape of the panel. On some of these panels, there are compound curves in all 3 directions at once...... Water is my friend here.. Make it damp and coerce the part to form. If the part is small enough, even the moisture from your fingers is enough....
The pic below demonstrates what I mean... The circled (white) panel is one complete piece, whereas the underlying texture has 4 seams across the panel.
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I have got to get this right and get it all smoooooooth......
Because chrome finishes are a b***h to get right.....:meh:
One cat hair ....... That's all it takes .........
But, I do love my cat ............
aha I understand that there are gaps
I think you need gaps between panels
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If you make a part to "greeble" onto a surface, if it is a thick part, sand the part to get the contour, and do so with the underside so it sticks on, not with a big glob of glue, but contoured to fit the shape. Water forming, sanding, using two part epoxy, and forming a shape, all these techniques are acceptable. Sandpaper is under used, and in my opinion, people make really wide panel lines. I think it is important to know if the lines are the edges of two parts over lapped, or edge to edge, or are they "Armor" protection. I see some beautiful models, mostly jet aircraft, with massively thick panel lines, and it kills me because that just show a complete lack of knowledge of how these aircraft are made. My feeling is that a model should imitate well, what you saw in the movie, but if there is an area chosen to be greebled, then at lest have a knowledge of what that area does. I have seen panel lines on jets that is scaled up would be 1.5" inches wide, when in fact, most aircraft, that are riveted together, start from the front, with the tail end of the panel, overlapping the front of the next panel, then those pieces are riveted into a the framing/bulkheads. Study the picture below. When the skin of an aircraft reaches it's end, and the two pieces meet, customarily, they are overlapped, rarely put edge to edge. Panel lines are usually caused by light reflecting on the higher panel, and making a shadow. Unless it is an opening, like a fuel access door.
My two cents worth
This picture actually is trying to explain something and does a good job but where it says "Panel Line, it should look like this, (in the picture above, the aircraft, or whatever, would be in danger of losing that panel, that is not how anything riveted is made!):
My two cents worth
This picture actually is trying to explain something and does a good job but where it says "Panel Line, it should look like this, (in the picture above, the aircraft, or whatever, would be in danger of losing that panel, that is not how anything riveted is made!):
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To add to my excitement of finishing the Discovery project this week, look what I received from my airbrushing mate this evening ...........
Leuk is geen woord hier... HEELEMAAL PRACHTIG!!!!
SUPER MOOI!! Ik ben heel erg blij met het resultaat!!!!!
Now, after seeing this, I have got the motivation to get this baby finished ...........
But, ............................
I have one other project I want to finish off first............. But, it won't take long to do!!!
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Apologies for the lack of updates. You know, life and that stuff.........:Computer::Coffee:
:wacky:
Anyway, here and there, I have been dabbling.......
I at last got around to finishing off the finish, (in Finland,) of the engines.
As the paper has now been coated with: 2 coats primer, 2 coats gloss black base, the chrome finish and 3 coats of clear, I think the paper is now well sealed in a paint cocoon.......
As it now stands, the whole engine is a super chrome finish, but, it lacks in depth ..........
The recessed and raised panels are 'lost' in the mirror effect.......
So, I decided to give each engine a wash.......
The wash was made up of about 75% water mixed with 25% black and blue acrylic artists paint, with a brush tip of washing up liquid! The final consistency/density was similar to a cup of coffee.
Using a thin paintbrush, loaded with the wash, I filled the panel lines and other areas with this concoction. The washing up liquid helps the paint/pigment to flow......
I left it all to dry for about an hour and did the whole wash process another two times.
So, three hours later, everything was dry.
I then used pieces of an old T-shirt, slightly dampened, and carefully cleaned off the excess wash.
I then left it once more to thoroughly dry and then buffed up the chromed finish, leaving the wash in the cracks, so to speak....
In the pics below, the engine on the left has had the wash treatment, the other not. It is subtle, but it makes a difference.
Eventually, the whole model will have this treatment. I am happy with the outcome of the engines. They are a test bed for the rest of the model.....
Photographing these things is a nightmare. They look nothing like they do to the naked eye.
But, I think you get a good idea.
See ya!
:wacky:Anyway, here and there, I have been dabbling.......
I at last got around to finishing off the finish, (in Finland,) of the engines.
As the paper has now been coated with: 2 coats primer, 2 coats gloss black base, the chrome finish and 3 coats of clear, I think the paper is now well sealed in a paint cocoon.......
As it now stands, the whole engine is a super chrome finish, but, it lacks in depth ..........
The recessed and raised panels are 'lost' in the mirror effect.......
So, I decided to give each engine a wash.......
The wash was made up of about 75% water mixed with 25% black and blue acrylic artists paint, with a brush tip of washing up liquid! The final consistency/density was similar to a cup of coffee.
Using a thin paintbrush, loaded with the wash, I filled the panel lines and other areas with this concoction. The washing up liquid helps the paint/pigment to flow......
I left it all to dry for about an hour and did the whole wash process another two times.
So, three hours later, everything was dry.
I then used pieces of an old T-shirt, slightly dampened, and carefully cleaned off the excess wash.
I then left it once more to thoroughly dry and then buffed up the chromed finish, leaving the wash in the cracks, so to speak....
In the pics below, the engine on the left has had the wash treatment, the other not. It is subtle, but it makes a difference.
Eventually, the whole model will have this treatment. I am happy with the outcome of the engines. They are a test bed for the rest of the model.....
Photographing these things is a nightmare. They look nothing like they do to the naked eye.
But, I think you get a good idea.
See ya!
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