Having a run at the Legal01 Re-envisioned Saturn V Mark III

Discussion in 'Space & Aeronautics' started by SonOfAGun2501, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. SonOfAGun2501

    SonOfAGun2501 Member

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    Next up I will be starting the rest of stage one. Can't decide if I should put the engines on now or after I finish the first stage. Thoughts anyone?
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    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator Moderator

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    I would make them removable. Easier to fix in case of an accident. :)
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  3. legal01

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    I would suggest building stage one and attaching first and then placing the engines, with the engines in the way you don't have a flat base to push against when joining the parts. Once stage one complete then add the engines.
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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. Also, in the future I probably would put the fins on after building the rest of stage one.
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    DanBKing Dan the Man

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    "Hindsight is an exact science ...." :)
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    That may be the best quote I have ever heard.
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  7. legal01

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    Oh dear, you will just have to start from scratch again then! :)
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  8. SonOfAGun2501

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    I know right. Damn, oh well back to square one. ;)
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    Okay here we go again. Just once again, this will be massive when it is done. I have finished the first extension onto the thrust structure. I went together pretty easily and there aren't that many parts but it does double the over all size.
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    Parts are 1 and 2 use part 3 to attach and repeat. When done you will have a pretty large cylinder. When attaching, there are some tiny markings that will help you align the sections.
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    The initial build will be kind of blocky but as it's build up with the support structures, it will become more cylindrical.
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    Part 4 will go in between the space between part 3 on the bottom. Part 5 will go on in between part 3 around the top half. Part 6 will cover everything on the top and use the guide lines from part 5 to align it. When attaching this to the thrust structure, do go slow and go one tab at a time.
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  11. SonOfAGun2501

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    Everything attached and the section markings.
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    Don't forget to insert some pieces of rolled up paper into the tubes to add strength and rigidity. :)
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    Great suggestion thanks.
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    I don't know why sometimes system stops notifying me new posts in my followed threads.
    I was loosing a lot of work here! Two full pages of new pieces I didn't see at all.
    Great work: now I'm aligned with actual status of the build! :)
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    Being aligned within oneself, keeps life on a straight line ......:)
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    Very happy to have you back and up to date.
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    Have you ever considered making a tube, a strong one, the same size as the rocket tubes, then filling it with construction foam, lining the interior tube with Vaseline to act as a releasing agent. You could then cut slices and stick them in the tunes, with a wooden dowel in between, using less foam, and making the rockets sure to hold their shape. :)
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  18. SonOfAGun2501

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    Well, no. Not until now. But definitely a suggestion worth thinking about. For my test build, I am just seeing how the pieces all fit together. When I do my build, I think I will shrink the paper down to B5 and make a smaller model. When I do, this idea will be really useful.
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    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator Moderator

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    I am happy you could decipher my crappy typing and see "tunes" for "tubes". If it doesn't work, OOps! I have worked with composite technology for too many years, and it started a long time ago. That's about all I can say about that, but some of the stuff you can get out of a can today, would have been Top Secret 20 years ago. Funny thing though is the way these things mimic the same techniques used in previous method, thus, a Sikorsky CH53E Helicopter (of which I made primarily rotor head components out of Titanium) is virtually Identical to a CH53K Helicopter, and if side by side, you would be hard pressed to tell them apart, except that the CH53K is mostly composite, carries a 50% greater load on the same horsepower, of course, it has even more powerful engines, so who really knows how much this beast can carry! If you look at the ring below the main rotor, which controls the cyclic and collective inputs, I used to cut those bushings to size after they were pressed in. This is taking a finished part, sticking on a huge milling machine, you cannot scratch it, then, cutting the width, where the shafts stick in, with a "tool" (proprietary information), to a box dimension, which usually is +0.000/-.0002" on a inch. The weather outside (Heat) and barometric pressure affected production of this part. Hard to believe that most of the fuselage of this aircraft is of a composite. Point is, most of my ideas, around 80%, are from experience, I got paid relatively well for the 20% I came up with. The forum pays me squat, but I feel far richer in spirit now from the good people who have decided to join in on this venture called Zealot.


    Glue lines vs. Rivet lines!! Get a load of those rear view mirrors!! :)
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    CH53E
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  20. SonOfAGun2501

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    Okay, after some delays, I am back on track. Special thanks to Legal01 for some piece resizing he did. The next portion of stage one is pretty much a repeat of the last section the steps are exactly the same the only thing to be careful of is the alignment of the markings.
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    The seams that have been fixed look really great now.
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