Building a Traction Layout

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WOW!! thats pretty amasing!!! i've never really wandered to far out of the photo forum, but now i'm going to have to check all the other forums here! awsome picture! i never knew what i was missing in this forum! that looks like it's going to be pretty darn awsome
 

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Hydrocal I hate it !

BUT I have to get this scenery in.
so here are a few pictures of my Laours.
I was given a box of cast rocks from Duckman as he has moved house last week.
so they will be shared and used by the gang.

This will be a main photo op area so I do hope I get it right.
Here are the basics.
 

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Its been a while but I am happy with this small yard its in and the overhead is up.
Scenery will follow after all the overhead is up and working.to my satisfaction.
 

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For those who are still viewing this thread, and are intrested in overhead.

I had a Christmas gift from an old friend for my L/O.
A Bud coach. the problem was that it being long in the body it was catching the poles that hold the wire up on the traction tracks under the high town.
So I had to take the town platform off and redo the poles.

So here is a chance to see the strong permant no maintance overhead I put in areas that are going to be out of reach.
 

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Hey Chris,

Looks like you've been busy. I see that alot of your motors have pantagraphs, but I noticed one car that uses a pole. Does the one(s) ( I haven't seen your whole roster) with the pole track the hidden overhead ok? I can't tell what gage wire you used, but it looks fairly healthy, and forever.
 

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zedob said:
Hey Chris,

Looks like you've been busy. I see that alot of your motors have pantagraphs, but I noticed one car that uses a pole. Does the one(s) ( I haven't seen your whole roster) with the pole track the hidden overhead ok? I can't tell what gage wire you used, but it looks fairly healthy, and forever.


Hi Zedob.

The overhead "wire" is 26 gauge phosphate bronze on all the exposed L/O
The heavy duty is only for "no mantinace or apperance" problems as it will be hidden , and that is 1/16th solid soft brass

The pole model is that of the Grand River Railway. I will be panning it soon when I have scratched built a couple more.
Each will have one pan and one pole, That is not prototipical of that road, BUT I only operate with pantagaphs.
 

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Ok, that makes sense. I always had a liking for traction and have always wanted to have atleast one streetcar running the roads, but I had always planned on the car running one end only forward and never having to raise or lower the pole to reverse. i can see where pantagraphs would make traction modeling more enjoyable.
 

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This week end apart from playing on ebay, I am better off as I was out bidded, boy they get stupid money for stuff eh?

Anyway I digest er digress

I did the hard part of my overhead, a lot of work in a small space, but it will make the L/O live.

What you will see here is,,, two overhead tracks one reversing on itself with 3 park ups at the station that will go there. The outside trackage carries steam/Diesel

I can now put the town platform back and continue with the rest of the overhead .

AS you saw the back hidden portion has very strong 1/16th overhead for problem free operation as I will not be able to see a wire adrift back there, and that would be costly
 

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The Sacramento Northern made extensive use of locos with one pan and one pole (and third-rail shoes, too!) to utilize the SN's weird admixture of power supplies--pans were used on interurban catenary track and on freight lines, poles were typically used in town on passenger lines, third rail used north of Sacramento outside of towns, and all units crossing Suisun Bay on the ferry RAMON used poles to board the ferry (it wasn't set up for pans.)
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SN 1005 with pan up and pole clearly visible
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Box motor 601 with pantograph and two poles
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GE steeplecab 650 with pan & pole
 

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jetrock said:
The Sacramento Northern made extensive use of locos with one pan and one pole (and third-rail shoes, too!) to utilize the SN's weird admixture of power supplies--pans were used on interurban catenary track and on freight lines, poles were typically used in town on passenger lines, third rail used north of Sacramento outside of towns, and all units crossing Suisun Bay on the ferry RAMON used poles to board the ferry (it wasn't set up for pans.)
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SN 1005 with pan up and pole clearly visible
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Box motor 601 with pantograph and two poles
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GE steeplecab 650 with pan & pole


Thanks Jet that is one of my favarite Lines.
I Loved the ferry operation.
 

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interurban, nice work, keep it up. I can't wait to see the progress on your layout. I sure can appreciate the effort it takes to build a traction layout. It's almost like building two railroads, kinda sorta. :thumb: Definiately not beginner stuff and not modeled that often (not to say that there are only a handful who do).

I have a thing for street trackage, especially in brick, and salute anyone who carves their own brick paving and yes, I have read your article.:thumb:

Now I know who to go too for future traction questions.:D


Ok jetrock, STOP IT! I really don't need a reason to add overhead to my layout.:D I already have enough unfinished projects to worry about, but boy it would be neat.
 

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I'm still trying to convince myself to add overhead to my own layout...I did some switching today and was reminded that putting in poles would seriously hamper my switching operations, as the 0-5-0 switcher is frequently called into service to unstick reticent couplers! I worry that if I do overhead, my big clumsy paw is going to end up tearing down overhead the next time I have to unstick a derailment--not to mention what those sharp barely-visible wires might do to my hand!

But then I see the great jobs on others' traction layouts, and the urge to do overhead bounces up again!!
 

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interurban said:
Thanks Bob and zedob, As jetrock said pole and Pan on the same unit was use by Sacramento Northern, I will have a few units equiped like that.
I have to find some way of getting frogs shipped up to me hhhhmmmm.

I have some questions about the frogs.

Do you need the overhead kind?
 

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