Skeleton Log Car Ideas?

Discussion in 'Logging, Mining and Industrial Railroads' started by Lighthorseman, Mar 31, 2003.

  1. Lighthorseman

    Lighthorseman Active Member

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    Anyone have pictures or plans for a basic skeleton log car? I'm thinking of one about 20 or 24 feet long. I know that many of the logging roads just made their own, so I'm just looking for general pointers.

    What size might the main beams have been? I'm thinking of three lengths of (?) scale 12" by 12" beams. I will post a mockup soon for critique.

    In the meantime, I'm WIDE open for suggestions.:) Thanks!
  2. shamus

    shamus Registered Member

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    Hi Steve,
    Here's one of my Skeleton cars, made by MDC Roundhouse 3 in 1 kits.

    Shamus
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  3. jon-monon

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    Hi Steve, I have just what you need if you will e-mail me your e-mail address. Mine is below in my siggy. Alternately, you can PM it to me. Thot I had it, but can't find it :confused:
  4. Lighthorseman

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    I Have Some Of Them!

    Shamus, I have at least a half-dozen of those 3-in-1 cars. If I'm not mistaken, they're actually old time tank car frames, although they are super little log cars.

    What I'd like to do is scratchbuild something a little more size-appropriate for On30, with the larger trucks, and a little longer, as the MDC cars scale out to about only 14 feet long or so.

    Here's a shot...

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  5. Lighthorseman

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    A Quick Mockup....

    Here are a few shots of a skeleton car that I quickly threw together as a mockup.

    Length - 20 scale feet...in O scale, 5 inches long.
    Consists of three 1/8 by 1/4 pieces of basswood glued together, making the main deck (Joist???) 1 foot high by 18 inches wide.
    Here's a view from the top.

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    Size Difference...

    Here's the relative difference in sizes between one I'd like and the MDC cars.

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    With a Porter...

    ...And the mockup alongside the small logging Porter...

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    ...And Finally...

    Just general size differences. Thanks for your patience.:)

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    Thanks for the links, Shamus! Those are exactly the type of cars I would like to build.:)
  11. shamus

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    I shall be in the same boat as you soon when I start my 0n30 logging layout

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  12. jon-monon

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    Checks in the (e) mail, gentlemen.
  13. Steam Donkey

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    Rivarossi skeketon log car

    Hi Steve,

    This may not help you as you're in a different scale, but have you seen the 38' Rivarossi skeleton log car? I have 6 of them now....man are they NICE! The air brake detail is second to none. Only drawback is they cost $47 CDN a pair at my LHS.....ouch!:eek:

    http://www.internethobbies.com/internethobbies/rivhigrolsto.html


    Stan
  14. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    Steve,
    your mockup looks good! Where 30", and 36" gauge are so close, you could go with On3 equipment on On30 trucks, or, extend your log cars to 26'-28' in length. The other way of looking at it would be, how long should the lumber be, that will come out of your logs. That would be the minimum length of the logs, and that would determine the length of your log cars.
    Most small lumber lines built their own log cars on site, to fit their own needs, so size is arbitrary. Some good photos of the hardware would be helpful in building credible models. The dimensions of your timbers sounds just about right, 6" X 12", and the log bunks look real close to the right length, for the width of the car.
    Pete
  15. Lighthorseman

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    Quick Update...

    The height of the car was too high for the couplers to match up, so I lowered the car. Also, the log bunks are now 1/4" (1 foot) square.

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    Continuing...

    Here is a 20 foot "log" on the MDC car...

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    Con't...

    ...And on my mocked up log car.

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    Next Up...

    The next time I can find a few moments, it will be the proverbial "litmus test" as I see if this car will negotiate an 18 inch radius, the tightest turns on my logging line. Wish me luck.

    Here's a last shot for today.

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    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    Steve,
    I'm not sure how much On30 equipment you have, but, I chose to raise the couplers on all the Bachmann stuff I have, to a height that is the same as 3' gauge. The front coupler of the Mogul, was actually at this height. I haven't done the shay yet, but that will also be done.
    I just figured that 18" above the railhead, was a little too low for the brakemen's comfort. They'd be filing workman's comp for back problems! :D
    Pete
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    Great idea, Pete! I'll have topullmy Mogul out and have a look before installing couplers. Thanks for the idea.