# River/Stream

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by Lionelalltheway, Jun 9, 2006.

1. ### LionelallthewayMember

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Hey again everyone,
I have yet another question for you. One aspect I know I want to incorporate into my 8x8 foot layout is a river/ stream. My idea is having 2 mountains w/tunnels very close to each other with about a 10 to 12" opening between them which trains will run through. Then have a small stream start near the top of one of the mountains and flow around and into a small gorge/canyon under the 10 to 12" opening, I will have the track on a bridge going over this. I was really jsut wondering what would be the best way to go about creating a stream and a gorge/ canyon, and if any of you have tips that I need to know before I make it?
Thanks
2. ### Russ BellinisActive Member

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What you want to do is not too difficult, but you are going to have to go with the 6 table suggestion I made back in your other thread, or else you will not be able to move the layout out of the room you build it in. The problem is that the height of the layout will be the sum of the mountains + the depth of the gorge + the thickness of the supporting benchwork. If the mountains are removeable, you will still have the depth of the gorge + the thickness of the bench work. Having the mountains removeable will leave the problem of a seam or crack along the base of both mountains. That crack can be covered by some scenery elements to minimize it, but those elements will have to be replaced if the mountains are ever moved. Your problem is that a 4' x 8' table will not go through any normal doorway without tipping it up on it's side. If you tip it on it's side to go through the door way, the width will still be at least the sum of the thickness of any roadbed, track and scenery on top of the table + the depth of the gorge and the thickness of the supporting framework. I think the minimum depth for a realistic gorge in o scale would be 10 inches. Add 4 inches for the framework and say 1 inch for subroadbed, roadbed, and track and you are at 15 inches. If you have to tip it on it's side and turn it to get it out of the room, you may end up bumping either side of the door way and doing damage to the layout. If you use the multiple sections that are no more than 2 feet wide, they can be carried out through the doorway vertically in the event of a move. This way you can also make the tunnels a permanent part of the layout.

3. ### LionelallthewayMember

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Thanks for your help, I am trying to figure everthing out before I start.
4. ### LionelallthewayMember

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What do you think is best for modeling water? After some research it seems to me that realistic water and water effects are good. any other ideas?
5. ### tkdmaster391New Member

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A good way to make water is to cut out the pattern out of blue paper(or color white paper with sevral shades of blue[recommended], place it down, and place some see through (plastic) foil. It gives it a more realistic effect but be sure that theres some grass/dirt/rocks(etc..,) covering the edges. If you don't get what im saying, tell me so I can draw something up so you would know what I mean.
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6. ### RalphRemember...it's for fun!

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I like acrylic gloss medium. Several coats make a nice watery sheen and the stuff doesn't have a strong odor like some other products. Inexpensive too!
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