Normandy SR-2 Beta Build

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  1. Millenniumfalsehood

    Millenniumfalsehood Active Member

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    Hey, ladies and gents, time for another beta-build! Last time I did one of these seriously, it was Thunderchild's enormous Gunstar-1 model from The Last Starfighter, and that was pretty fun. I enjoyed waiting for new sections to be developed and help work out problems in the section I had just finished, and now I get to work on and help bring to you all one of my favorite non-film sci-fi subjects: the Normandy SR-2 from Mass Effect 2. It should be noted that I have not ever played the game, so I know very little about the Mass Effect universe (I had to look up whether SR-2 came before or after Normandy in the name of the ship, heh), but I'll do my best to build this ship up as best I can and give the maker, SJSquirrel, as much data as I can on what needs to be addressed in the instructions and what can be tuned up or modified to make it work better.

    And speaking of which, I'm very grateful for SJSquirrel letting me build this for him. I wanted a big model of the Normandy for a while, because something about the shape of it just strikes me, and I was actually shocked to hear from him that nobody wanted to test-build her! Can you believe it?

    Anyway, on to the build!

    First up, page one: the cockpit. I found this area to be easy to build, but I ran into a problem that plagued me throughout the rest of the fuselage. That is, where do you cut the thick lines that surround the structural members? Now, in vectored models, the lines are typically razor-thin, because the shape of the inner structure is critical to lining up everything right. But the lines for the structural elements of this model are all quite thick: on the order of .5mm. This may not seem like a lot, but it actually ended up causing the framework to not fit into the hull on a couple of instances. I ended up using a sanding stick to file the framework down so it would fit. In the end, I would recommend trimming off as much of the black outline as you can so it fits right, otherwise you'll end up not being able to fit the bottoms of each section to their tops.

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    As far as the gray sunken area between sections 2 and 3, or rather what is supposed to be colored gray, I would love it if there were a strip of gray on the sheet that I could trim to 1mm and wrap around this part.

    The next part I did was section 2:

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    I started by building the frame first, as I did with the cockpit, and then I glued the bottom to it. Big mistake, it turned out. I had trimmed the frame too much (or maybe I had left off too much black outline on the inner skin), so the underside ended up sunken into the hull:

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    Again, with an inner structure, especially one that is apparently as sensitive as this one to minor changes in shape, it's best to have a razor-thin line for all major components. I would highly recommend SJSquirrel take the pages into Adobe Illustrator or other vectoring program and go over them with vector lines so as to avoid this problem.

    Work continued on down the hull:

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    I found it worked best to go in this order: inner skin, outer skin, frame, bottom. This way, I could align the outer skins to the inner skins and then massage them into place over the frame as a single unit, and then finally cover it all up with the bottom piece.

    Also, I ran into a rather large blunder in the parts numbering: there are two transposed part numbers on the frame for section 3:

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    I had started gluing Part 11 to the main runner after Part 12 had set, but it wasn't fitting right at all. I figured I had just trimmed the runner too tall and was going to take a sanding stick to it after it dried, but when I tried to glue on Part 10, it was too tall! I figured that the parts numbers might have been transposed, and when I switched the parts they fit like a glove.

    I kept on going down the hull, gluing sections together using the above-mentioned methodology:

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    I used notebook paper to glue the skins together:

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    I don't really have a good reason for doing so. It was just the first piece of paper I grabbed. You'll also notice here that the parts where the hull is joined together are warped. This is another reason for gluing the skins to the inner hull before gluing the framework in place. The outer skins can help shore up deformities in the inner hull, and if you don't have the framework in the way you can actually get them fairly flat and even simply by pressing and holding them with your thumb and forefinger. And afterward you end up with a fairly nice, smooth joint that won't let any of the white underside show through. In fact, there are several areas on the nose where you can see the white under the outer skins, but this problem instantly went away on the section following it due to me changing my build strategy.

    And here is where she is now:

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    I won't be able to update this for a few days yet, as my computer is in the shop and I won't get it back until at least Wednesday. This is actually why I have so much progress made: when you don't have the internet distracting you, you'd be amazed how much work you can get done. [​IMG]

    Anyway, C&C welcome, and I look forward to building more of this massive, awesome model.
  2. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator Moderator

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    YAY! FINALLY!!! This is coming together GREAT!!! :)

    I don't know how Steve has unfolded the plane but I highly suspect he was using Pepakura. If he did, it would be a piece of cake to redo the lines using imcold's excellent PDOTools program:
    http://satd.sk/web/pdotools/

    With it and a vector program you could alter the thickness of the lines by yourself.

    EDIT: If the former pages are provided as pdf you might be able to load them directly into a vector program and alter them. :)

    Hehe, indeed! That's one the reasons why I was able to make so much progress with Buck's poster gun and the Cylon rifle! :)
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  3. zathros

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    I tell you that looking at these pictures shows how important it is to cut the formers right, true, and squared. That's why your models, the ones your personally build, are always so "right". :)
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    Cool! The Normandy from Mass Effect. Looking forward to the finished product. BTW I've played the original game and am partway through the 2nd one (alas I don't have much time to mess with it now). For the rest of you out there there is a 3rd Mass Effect game and a 4th one is in the works.

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  5. F131

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    Awesome!
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    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator Moderator

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    I'd load smaller pictures, so the page loads quicker. It's easier to see the full size ones that way. You could set up a gallery too. All is coming along excellently. :)
  7. Millenniumfalsehood

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    I'll see if I can figure out how to set up a gallery, as that would probably be much faster and simpler than resizing all the pics; I'm still not familiar with all the features of the site, so that didn't occur to me right off. Do you want me to make a gallery for the previous build photos as well?

    Thanks for the sticky, Zathros. :) I should probably get some work done on the Gunstar soon too, now that I think about it. :shamefullyembarrased:

    I should mention that the next segment has me stumped for the moment. I've asked SJSquirrel about it, so we'll see what he says. Geek Squash still hasn't gotten my computer back to me, not to mention they had the audacity to charge me for repairs when they caused the problem in the first place, so I'm still limited to visiting my parents on the weekend to get updates for the time being.
  8. Revell-Fan

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    Use PhotoFiltre for resizing. It has a very comfortable and fast batch processing feature. Settings can be saved. I use it to resize my pics. The default picture size of the pics I post is 800 x 600 pix. :)
  9. Millenniumfalsehood

    Millenniumfalsehood Active Member

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    Oh cool, thanks! :D I'll do that when I do the next post, after I get some actual work done. ;)
  10. F131

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    Any new developments?
  11. Millenniumfalsehood

    Millenniumfalsehood Active Member

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    No, but not for lack of trying. I've had a pretty busy (and crappy) month, mostly involving trying to keep my sanity while I and a group of students built a combat robot for school, plus I realized that a plastic modeling contest is coming up soon and I was trying to get a model of the USS Defiant done. Not to mention all the crap that's going on in my personal life.
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    never thought of using binder paper as a backing and support. thank you for that tip, looking forward to more of your pics!
  13. F131

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    Understood. Life can get in the way of hobbies. I haven't but anything in 3 years.