Name Me A Good Small Steamer

Discussion in 'N / Z Scale Model Trains' started by Cannonball, May 16, 2007.

  1. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    After so many years of running steam in O gauge, it doesn't seem right that all my N scale stuff is diesel. I want to find a small steamer to run on my layout perhaps with a few early era passenger cars.

    I don't want a huge long monster like a 4-8-4 or anything.
    I'd like to find a 2-4-0 that would handle 9-3/4" turns.
    (Just in case since my layout isn't built yet)

    I'd like to keep it under $100 but many of you have said a steamer isn't worth the money until it's over a Benjamin. That being the case, I'm willing to entertain ideas up to a bill and a half or so.

    Anybody have any experience with the Bachmann American? I know they only list around $40 or so. I ask because I found one in CB&Q and I'd like to grab it. Feel free to shoot it down if you want and I'll leave it alone.
  2. Triplex

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    You know, anything up to a 2-8-0 will handle 9.75", and a lot of larger engines will, too...

    I don't think there's any 2-4-0 available. Support for old-time in N isn't so good.
  3. Biased turkey

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    Unless you decide to model German prototypes with Fleischmann Piccolo N scale steam engines I'm afraid you'll have a hard time to find N scale tank locomotives.
  4. woodone

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    You interested in a 0-8-0 or a 2-8-2. I have seen some Atlas/Rivarossi's going for less than $50.00 plus freight. You might get a better deal than that if you look around. They are a fair running loco. not great but workable. I have seen some old MRC QB-1's for sale too.
    Take a look at Ebay. toys&hobbies- then select N scale- search steam. you will find a few right now.
    Happy hunting.
  5. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    I don't want anything near as long as that.
    The most I want to go is a 2-6-2 or a 4-6-0.
  6. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    What about the Atlas 2-6-0 Moguls?

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  7. woodone

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    Well I personaly have never had any of the loco's, you have shown. Atlas/Rivarossi loco's are good units-motors were a little weak, not sure how these would rate. Are you looking for the 1800's look? Or just any Moguls?
  8. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    Pretty much any steam that will make a 9-3/4 turn.
    That's the main reason I want to avoid anything with 8 drivers
    I think any Mongul would fit the bill.
  9. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    Just when I say I want to avoid anything with 8 drivers...... 0-8-0

    Life-Like 0-8-0
  10. woodone

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    Well the Atlas/Rivarossi 0-8-0 is a fair running unit- I have two myself.
    Not sure how thay will run on a 9 3/4 radius. All my curves are 15 or better. The biggest problem with these units is the motor- but you can get replacements- $25.00 plus S&H- so watch out what you buy.
  11. absnut

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    The Former MDC (now Athearn) 2-6-0 and 2-8-0 are great runners and would seem perfect for your needs. They can both be had for less than a hundred. Check out that popular auction site. They'll also work great on 9-3/4" radius.

    Dick
  12. Biased turkey

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    Isn't the proto 2000 serie HO scale ?

    Anyway, if the only requirement is to negotiate a 9 3/4" curve, the Kato Mikado does it.
  13. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    Nope. Those are N scale.
    (The website is buynscale.com :D )

    A Mike will do 9-3/4"???? :shock:
  14. Biased turkey

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    Canonball, are you sure the Proto 2000 serie is HO ?
    Check this link:
    Lifelike Proto 2000 GP 7 Engines


    The Mike does well on 9 3/4" curves , but it looks toyish :)
  15. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    According to what I've seen, there are a few N scale Protos done in "limited quantities" as well.

    You're talking to a guy that runs O27 gauge trains.
    Toyish is part of the hobby for me. :D
  16. Triplex

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    Always remember: 9.75" is small, but not that small. Smaller 8-driver engines will run fine on it.