Katrina News Thread!!!

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by ezdays, Aug 28, 2005.

  1. Iron Goat

    Iron Goat Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    577
    Likes Received:
    0
    Bob and Chris... Glad to hear all is well on the Miracle Strip, and that you and your's are safe. Now if we can only make it one more month, the area should be able to take a deep breath once again. I am hoping the hurricane's will leave the area alone after this one... my old squadron has an annual reunion at Hurlburt Field the first week in October, and it was scrubbed last year because of IVAN... I have my fingers crossed for this years gathering.

    Once again, thank God for area being spared this time...

    Bob :wave:
  2. Big_Al73

    Big_Al73 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have a cousin in law that lives in Pensicola Fl, he stayed thru Ivan and he said he would never do that one again, so he comes all the way to wheeling, West Virginia, when they say a catergory 3 or highier is coming for Pensicola. I would like to know, how do you guys deal with it, and also what do you do with your layouts and train collections? When Ivan unlashed its rains on us, we got flooding in places that hasn't been flooded in years, and on the news some guy was trying to collect his lionel trains that were floating in boxes and totes. I felt sorry for that guy. I live along the Ohio River, and well we just bought the has about 4 month before the Ivan, and well I stayed up all night so I could write down the flood stages, so, I would know when water would be in my basement. Let alone, I had to move my stuff, grandparents stuff, and other relatives. We got lucky and and only had a inch of water in the basement. So, know my wife is scared and worried about this one. Well, my trains are one the second floor. But, I hope for the best for everyone that made it thru the storm.
  3. shaygetz

    shaygetz Active Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2003
    Messages:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    0
    I know it sounds cliche', but I reeeeeally find out what trusting God means down here. I've tryed to keep a very light hold on them, remembering they are just things. 3x in the last 11 months I've had to pack all my individual pieces into two WWII Army officer's footlockers, the kind that seal rather well but are by no means watertight. My paints and supplies go into an old Army barracks footlocker, the kind that are basically plywood boxes. My layout at this time is a 6' x 30" module built to fit our club layout that I leave to fend for itself. Then I board up the windows and say goodbye. You really do have to learn to prioritize and you really do have to learn to let them go. I have a neighbor who lost his entire diecast collection, his Lionel collection and his LP collection to Ivan and he is just a basketcase whenever a thunderstorm wells up off of Africa. I can't say I won't hurt for any loss and that I'll just buck up and take it if it should come, but I do pray that God is my source, that my family is ultimately more important and precious to me and that I keep a very light grip on those things that give me a healthy pleasure without consuming me. Blessings, BC
  4. Chris Beard

    Chris Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2004
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Like Bob and the rest of us here on the storm coast my trains are of my lowerst priority. If they get destroyed I will buy more and improve on what I have from the experiences learned. I am almost finished with "Walthers car float apron" which , I will admit, I would probably taken with me. It has been a tough kit. Not so much the building, but the paint.
  5. Gary Pfeil

    Gary Pfeil Active Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2001
    Messages:
    2,594
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd like to see some photos Chris, my plan calls for a float bridge...someday. Had thought I'd use a Walthers kit if I can find one when I eventually need it.

    Gary
  6. Chris Beard

    Chris Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2004
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    If you want a car float apron you had better buy it now. They are scarce and getting worse. I am still looking for a car float.
  7. KCS

    KCS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    0
    It started out bad and only getting worse. Along with billions in damage. The flooding in New Orleans is only getting worse as the levies are breaking from Lake Ponchatrain. Looters have been reported breaking in a stealing anything they can get their hands on including guns from pawn shops that they are using to shoot at authorities with. So far sense the last report I heard that 10 were dead from being shot by police. Another group has also opened fire on a police helicopter but I haven't heard the out come on that situation.

    If you are going on vacation or anything that requires traveling of any kind try to avoid Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, and the panhandle of Florida. I just got in from Troy, AL where Wiley Sanders Truck Lines (WSTL) is based. We made our first run from Dallas, TX. to Lafayette, LA. after the storm passed and we came home for the night. We took Interstate 49 south to Lafayette, LA. We dropped our load there then went to Opelousas, LA. (which is only about 30 miles north of Lafayette) to pick up another load. We took it to Birmingham, Al. where it was dropped and we were sent about 45 miles west of Decatur, Al. to pick up another load that went to the Troy, AL. yard for WSTL. We stayed the night on the yard and left out with an empty for Meridian, MS.

    We picked up a load there and ran on down Interstate 20 to the house here in Shreveport, LA. and will head for Dallas in the morning to deliver it. Despite all this we've seen nothing but chaos. I haven't had the chance to see the news and what they have to say but the states listed above are in a fuel crisis. The hurricane has shut down the main supply source of all petroleum product. 80% of Mississippi is without power. Not many places to get a hot meal, shower, and fuel. hundreds of emergency vehicles along with the national guard, Asplundh and other tree companies, electric companies and everything else you can think of has been seen headed south on all inbound roads south to New Orleans and the surrounding area's from every direction in the country.


    AS we made way across I-20 we've seen car's upside down, slammed into trees, stuck in mud after being blown off the road by the harsh winds that did a lot of damage between Jackson and Meridian, MS. Truck driver's reported on the CB of dodging full size trees, power lines, billboard sign as well as the big green road signs and many other objects. I kept track on one item I saw was huge chunk of a steel billboard sign about 20 miles east outside Jackson, MS. The main part of the billboard was found roughly 15 miles down the road. Tractor trailers have been blown over, slammed into various objects and visa versa along with cars and other objects as far inland as Jackson. AS for the fuel crisis, fuel is running short.

    truck stops and gas stations are back up for miles on and off the interstate in every direction with people who have been waiting in their cars for days. Phones are not available in the state of Mississippi. Only about 2 out of 20 cell phones will work in the area because towers have been knocked out. Phones have been reported to been able to call outside of the state to places like California, etc., but very few have been able to make calls within these states. The death toll is racking up more and more as children are dying from not eating in 3 or more days and people at the Dome stadium are getting badly sick. Police have made it aware that ANYONE caught looting will be shot. No Exceptions. As they have said if you end up dead. To bad. It's your problem. They are not toleration this in anyway and will use any and all force required.

    But, as I was saying on the fuel ordeal. Gas has gone up to $3.19 a gallon so far and still rising. It's been reported that gas and fuel have gone up in Georgia as high as $6.00 a gallon from people price gouging. Innocent people are being robbed of what little money they have. Two of our yards for Wiley Sanders has no fuel what so ever. The massage came in over the computer in the truck yesterday evening that those two yards are bone dry and working on a third. I'm surprised a wide spread panic emergency hasn't been set because this part of the U.S has turned into a living hell. We've seen as many as 12-15 state troopers in Mississippi at one gas station trying to keep things in order because of people breaking out into fist fights and people hitting cars with other cars fighting to get to the gas pumps which don't work and haven't worked sense the day the storm came threw.

    I'm leaving out in the morning but we have to make some more miles so I'll check back with an update sometime this weekend when I get home. Oh and I'm not sure which it is but I believe the main bridge on HWY. 90 is completely gone and the roadway covered with boats and ships along with a casino boat that is on the roadway. The following interstate/hwys are shut down to New Orleans. I-55, I-59, HWY. 90, I-12, I-10, HWY. 49
  8. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2000
    Messages:
    7,260
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the update, Charles...

    we're praying for you all... :( :(
  9. kf4jqd

    kf4jqd Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2001
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    0
    My thoughts and prayers goes out to all those who are effected. We are doing everything we can here in East Tennessee. There is good reason they call this the Volunteer State. Alot of people here are doing everything in their power to help. I've donated water which the radio stations are asking for. I am also setting up my Ham Radio Station to help past emergency traffic along. Tomorrow at the University of Tennessee's first game of the year, they is a big campain with the fans for relief efforts.

    Also have a Ham Radio friend who is a Black Hawk helicoper pilot for the Minnisota National Gaurd. He flies medi-evacs. He has his crew standing by and waiting orders form the governor to go. The last couple of nights, he has been sleeping at the hanger ready to go.

    One great thing about this great nation, we unite when we are in need. I also hope this reopens for changes in our energy and transportation needs. Before I go, we here in East TN has the threat of running out of gas.

    God Bless,
    Andy KF4JQD
  10. ezdays

    ezdays Out AZ way

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2003
    Messages:
    6,590
    Likes Received:
    0
    Charles,

    We thank you for your first-hand report. We here can only cringe at the events we see on TV, and read in the news. They appear to be responding from all over the nation with help. It's slow starting up and we can only imagine what those people there are going through waiting for this help. We just hope they can hang in there until they get the help they need. "Sherrif Joe's" deputies left in a convoy today heading to New Orleans and many others from Arizona are already there from the Red Cross to the power company, and I'm sure it's the same in other states as well.
  11. shaygetz

    shaygetz Active Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2003
    Messages:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm finding the gas situation here is more panic motivated and/or folks from that area who are heading back home, buying up every gas can they can get and then carting all the fuel they can carry to where they need it. We live on a major east-west corridor and so are seeing alot of Louisianna/Alabama/Mississippi plates heading westbound. We're also seeing the ready to eat, non-perishable foods, diapers and water disappearing off the shelves and going that way too. Many families around here have grown by 4,6 even 14 members that I know of as they are taking their own kin into their houses as they can. It will be a long fall season down here for many folks. We do appreciate all the help from out there, be careful of the news channels as they are only focusing on a small part of a very big picture. We have two whole parishes in Louisianna that may very well not exsist anymore.
  12. KCS

    KCS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    0
    Back from Dallas and home for the weekend. I'll be out on the road for two weeks when we leave out Tuesday morning headed for Monroe, LA. On the way to Dallas Which is about a 2hour 45 min drive from Shreveport we seen Military convoys headed eastbound on I-20 coming from out west. One convoy was heavily guarded with 8-9 state troopers following them across the state of Texas. There were a some total of 7 convoys today. Along with those convoy's were other convoys of brand new EMS unit's. A news crew was broad casting live in a rest area along I-20 taking shots of the convoy's as they rolled by. A gathering of some kind which is believed to be a party at the very last rest area in Texas near the Louisiana State line packed with buses, people, food, BBQ grills and many other things. Another bit of good new is that the BP gas station located close to Atlanta, GA. has been shut down. The owner is being charged with a minimum fine of $5,000.00 per customer that purchased gas from the station. Along with those charges he is being charged with a fine minimum no less than $15,000.00 for every senior citizen that has been over charged with price gouging. I am hopping that Wiley Sanders Trucks Lines will put forth the effort to help in the aid of this crisis. People are killing others over a bottle of water. It's falling apart down there. Threw out the last few day's I have only come across one tractor trailer that that had a sign in the passenger side window of the cab saying is was a disaster relief truck. The fuel shortage is getting worse as it moves toward Texas. The prices have shot up from around $2.85 a gallon to $3.16 a gallon. We got a message in on the computer in the truck today to the entire company fleet that was listed as a pre warning to not let the trucks get below half a tank of fuel (as they hold 150 gallons in each tank) Along with that message was another message that came in shortly after stating a list of places where fuel is no longer available and the places that have very little left. Truck stops from Rayville, LA. all the way to Atlanta, GA. has no fuel what so ever and the couple that do have very little close to none. With those listed are a few that are no longer open for business. If WSTL won't help with the problem then I am however thinking very seriously about going down there and offering my services anywhere they are needed because these people are still very short handed and need every bit of help they can get. The chemical plant that has exploded is also carrying a major threat against the area as toxic fumes are being released along with the contaminated water full of sewage, chemicals that flood's that entire area even bodies which if not taken care of soon could triple the threat as some know of what is called the plaque which contains many harmful disease's that could kill just by breathing the air like some of the wars a long time ago. Houston, TX. is at it's maximum capacity. Dallas is getting close also. I do believe Bush has realized that it's 10X's worse than what it looks on TV. I'm thinking the cost will not be in the billions but in the trillions of dollars. I'll update more as it becomes available.
  13. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2000
    Messages:
    7,260
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh man - Thanks Guys! This is truly turning into "being worse than we thought" :( :( :(
  14. KCS

    KCS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, I'm not sure how much is seen on TV as the word on the news that a lot of the footage that we see on TV is being edited so most of the western U.S is not seeing a lot of the things being shown as it contains very disturbing and graphic footage. However a friend of mine found some pictures that might be a better way to get a sense of how wide scale this disaster really is. What is seen on TV is "only focusing on a small part of a very big picture," like Shaygetz has mentioned above.

    As for a fuel update it is moving further west day by day. For what I mentioned yesterday that there wasn't any fuel between Georgia and Rayville, La. has now moved further west right out side of Shreveport in Haughton, LA. at the Pilot truck stop. Out of the pictures being posted a few are not being posted because I do not find them appropriate to post as they are very disturbing.

    The first picture is of the dome showing the roof torn off the south side half as it was hit. The second picture is an angled arial view the showing as much as far as can be seen in New Orleans just to see how large scale the damage is. Third is of an unknown military personal looking at the damage as they fly over looking for signs of life. The fourth picture is of people stuck on a bridge somewhere in New Orleans.

    The fifth picture is of downtown New Orleans under water.

    Attached Files:

    • D1.jpg
      D1.jpg
      File size:
      11.5 KB
      Views:
      9
    • D2.jpg
      D2.jpg
      File size:
      25.7 KB
      Views:
      8
    • D3.jpg
      D3.jpg
      File size:
      13.8 KB
      Views:
      7
    • D4.jpg
      D4.jpg
      File size:
      22.2 KB
      Views:
      7
    • D5.jpg
      D5.jpg
      File size:
      25.7 KB
      Views:
      8
  15. KCS

    KCS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    0
    The first picture here is of an interstate system the disappears under the water threw a large residential area. Seventh picture of people stranded trying to get help to get pulled out before the water level reach's the top of the building. Eighth picture of people also stranded in their home with the water level steadily rising ninth picture of people walking threw the contaminated water to reach higher ground. tenth picture people are have also painted SOS on the roof for help to be rescued from there.

    Attached Files:

    • D6.jpg
      D6.jpg
      File size:
      22.7 KB
      Views:
      10
    • D7.jpg
      D7.jpg
      File size:
      16.2 KB
      Views:
      7
    • D8.jpg
      D8.jpg
      File size:
      26.6 KB
      Views:
      7
    • D9.jpg
      D9.jpg
      File size:
      15.3 KB
      Views:
      9
    • D10.jpg
      D10.jpg
      File size:
      18.2 KB
      Views:
      8
  16. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2000
    Messages:
    7,260
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wow - Cant believe it could ever be that bad :( :( :( :(
  17. KCS

    KCS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    488
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yea it's really bad. It's so bad that I've just had a concern that just crossed my mind about the steam locomotive SP 745, a 1920-vintage "Mikado" engine that was fully restored and made a run all the way up to Shreveport then made many stops on its way threw Mississippi before it returned home in New Orleans where it was last heard about. Not only that but I've noticed that KCS doesn't have much traffic coming or going on their north/south bound tracks out of Shreveport. You would think trains would be the next big way to move in supplies to New Orleans but there's hardly anything moving in this part of the country. I haven't seen one train go threw a grade crossing anywhere we have been so far. The only movement I've seen was a UP unit with two yellow strobes on the roof flashing switching a cut of cars and a couple other yards switching cuts. The yards are empty compared to what they normally have. Other than that I haven't seen any heavy train movement on main lines at all. On top of the fuel shortage I wonder what the railroads are doing and how it is effecting them.
  18. zedob

    zedob Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2004
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's hard to imagine a whole city being cleared. 1.2 million people I believe.

    The emergency response personnel plan and train on situations like this, albiet on a much smaller scale, but who could have even imagined something on this grand of a scale, even with the Corps of Engineer's and other experts warnings.

    Luckily, we have the people and resources to act. Humans on a whole are humanitarians. We'll get through this,learn from it and just make it better.

    We're still looking for one of our friends who was at one of the hotels down in the FQ.

    I bet this is the last time anyone will try and ride out a storm like that. I wonder how many people will return to NO to live. It's too bad, it was a great city to visit.
  19. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2000
    Messages:
    7,260
    Likes Received:
    0
  20. shaygetz

    shaygetz Active Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2003
    Messages:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    0
    A personal story from a friend:

    A childhood enemy he used to bully, grew up to own a 200'+ ocean going tugboat. He took that tug up the bayou to the little town they grew up in. After making arrangements with a local doctor to sedate my friend's bedridden mother, he loaded the whole town onto this ocean tug. He then piloted the tug up the bayou as far as he could go, then sank her into the mud of the bayou. There they sat thru the storm, able to communicate with everyone's families thru the ship's onboard SATCOM systems, listing only a couple of degrees the whole storm. After that, he refloated the tug and took everyone back home to find they had fairly well been spared as far as could be expected. My friends family is safe and dry back home and his mom is doing well for the ordeal. :thumb: