i thiink i have decided to hand lay my turnouts cause it will be cheaper in the long run do you think i should by the kit or just wing it
Although that's one reason for hand laying turnouts, it may not be enough to sustain you if you are an easily frustrated when pursuing the finer points of modeling.
The Fast Tracks jigs are reportedly very helpful for your first couple of turnouts. The limitations of the jigs are 1) the expense if you need multiple frog angles or rail sizes; 2) limited with few exceptions to the frog angle of the jigs you ordered; and 3) not easy to install tie plate detail. OTOH, provided you build in accordance with the instructions, you will have a very smooth running turnout that will not cause derailments with wheel sets that are in gauge.
I learned to hand lay before Fast Tracks jigs were available. But I didn't start with a turnout, either. I used Jack Work's article in April 1963
Model Railroader as a guide. I was scared that I was in over my head. So, first I laid an oval on a 4x8 of Homasote covering plywood. I then took up some of that track and added a couple of turnouts. Worked out better than I ever dreamed. I have found that I find a peace and patience I don't normally have when I am hand laying track or tuning a locomotive. This gives me the ability to correct my work until it is spot on. But there are plenty of folks who don't find this peaceful zone when hand laying track - and for them hand laying is not a good idea.
Advantages of not using the jigs: 1) you save the expense; 2) you can have custom trackwork to any geometry you like, including curved frogs, curved turnouts, stub turnouts, and so forth; 3) you can pick methods, techniques, and components you prefer without worrying whether it will work with the Fast Tracks jigs. You can buy very detailed cast frogs, or make your own. Same with points and throw rods. You can buy very realistic tie plates, and point hinges, or make your own, or do without.
The primary disadvantage of not using the jigs is creating your own turnout template to lay out ties, file the frog, determine the length of points, and so on. I did this by by drawing where I wanted the rails to go in pencil right on the Homasote. Steve Hatch of Railway Engineering (
Handlaying Track) suggests positioning a piece of flex track to one path of the turnout, tracing the position of the rail heads onto paper taped in place over top, repositioning the flex track to the desired other path of the turnout, and again tracing the rail head positions on the same paper still taped in place.
just some of my thoughts, your choices