HO Northwest Short Line Dunkirk

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Model Railroading' started by Mean Old Man, Feb 19, 2005.

  1. Mean Old Man

    Mean Old Man New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello. Finally got one of these after 25 years of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Figured it might be of interest, as almost nothing comes up in a google search for these.

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    It's not a very big model; in fact, it's tiny- about 4" over the footboards.

    [​IMG]

    Did I mention it's 30" gauge?

    [​IMG]

    The solder's a bit blebby, and the detail's kinda primitive (take a good look at the sideframes and that headlamp), but I'm totally enamored with this little beast. I'm strictly armchair, but this may actually be enough to kick me into building a tiny layout.

    Anyone else out there have one?
  2. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    0
    SWEET !! :thumb:
  3. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    Messages:
    4,767
    Likes Received:
    0
    The size of this neat loco means it would be N gauge. From the look of it it could be a Climax but there is no drive system such as pistons or rods. The underneath photo shows the drive shaft to the wheels OK. Just not finished is all. Does it have an electric motor in it?
  4. Mean Old Man

    Mean Old Man New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ummm...

    It's definitely HO scale, just that it runs on N-gauge track. Works out to 30" gauge in HO scale. And it's a Class B Dunkirk, which is kind of like a Heisler, but with the V-twin engine's cylinders inside the cab.

    The model has a tiny Sagami electric motor in it. Once I greased the geartrain, it ran like a Swiss watch.
  5. Iron Goat

    Iron Goat Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2004
    Messages:
    577
    Likes Received:
    0
    What a great looking lokey !!!

    Bob
  6. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    Messages:
    4,767
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the info Mean. I hadn't heard of a Dunkirk before. Very interesting. With the V cylinders in the cab there couldn't have been much room for the driver and fireman.
  7. Mean Old Man

    Mean Old Man New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Picture stolen from www.gearedsteam.com:



    [​IMG]

    Talk about an unsafe working environment- stubbed toes, baked at 450°F...
  8. CalFlash

    CalFlash Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    256
    Likes Received:
    0
    I had one of their small Shays that came with Std and narrow guage trucks but have never seen one of these. As with almost anything that old, you will probably want to replace some castings and customize it some. I would strongly reccommend bead blasting proir to painting it to smooth out the solder blobs and remove the tarnish. I have a booth from my days as a custom painter and can do it but hopefully you could find someone locally.
  9. hudsonelectric

    hudsonelectric Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2004
    Messages:
    236
    Likes Received:
    0
    WOW!!! I've never heard of these, either! Great looking model, too. Just needs a toolbox, some chains, coiled cable, and tools hanging from it, maybe a couple of crew-type guys, and you're all set to pull those log buggies!
  10. Mean Old Man

    Mean Old Man New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Here's the original ad, from the November 1979 issue of Model Railroader:

    [​IMG]

    The list price was $189.50 US. Note how they mention the HOn2-1/2 version almost as an afterthought. I have the David Hoffman book, too.

    I'm actually a huge fan of the Maine 2-footers (less of the locomotives than of the architecture that surrounds them), and am thinking of using this model in an industrial Atlantic Coast setting. Now that I've found what seems to be a competent mail-order distributor of Bemo HOe track and turnouts, I've resurrected ideas for a little Timesaver switching layout with a seabiscuit factory, a bronze foundry, and a saltwater pier. This locomotive looks East Coast enough that I think I'll get away with it in that environment.
  11. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    Messages:
    4,767
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the diagram and info Mean. I will have to try scratchbuilding one of them form my Nn3 logging area
  12. DWP

    DWP Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2004
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    0
  13. jetrock

    jetrock Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2003
    Messages:
    956
    Likes Received:
    0
    www.carendt.com has plenty of plans for layouts, especially narrow-gauge ones, that fit in four square feet or less--easy to put in the living room for convenient access from your armchair!

    I'd recommend getting some N scale flextrack and finding out how sharp of a curve that little beastie can manage--0-4-0's in HOn30 can turn on a dime and give back change, but sometimes geared locomotives' gearings need a little more leeway, even the really teeny ones.