Ok guys, the drawing is pathetic, what can I say? By the time I master Track planning software my 2 boys will be out of college! Anyway, I moved from a thread in HO that I started: http://www.zealot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109444 which resulted (with everone's help) in this bench plan for my basement. The black is the outline of the bench. My sorry drawing is pretty much to scale. the 2 large penninsulas are 4'-0 wide and 5'-0 deep. The small one on the right is 18" wide and 6'-0 or so long. the aisles are 30" wide. This is the way the bench must stay. the only change possible is the width of the aisles. I guess there's room to narrow them. I've been advised that given the size I have to work with, a logging theme might solve tight radius problems and allow for elevation changes in a relatively short run. This is my feeble attempt to get some ideas on paper to show people what I have to work with. As stated in my previous thread, I have two boys and continuous running is a must, but DAD needs some switching to keep my interest. If anyone can show me what can be done with this, I would be grateful. I can't see me doing anything with soft ware. Thanks.