Brill Motor Car drawings

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  1. rlundy90

    rlundy90 Member

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    Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find drawings for a 1922 Brill Model 55 Moter Car. Thanks, Ron.
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    I might have something BUT is a Canadian model 55 the same as a model 55 as used on the SAR.
    when I find my way home I have a look & post it someone else may be able to tell
    Tony
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    Hi hmas. I'm not sure if they are the same or not.The one I want to model belongs to the Greater Winnipeg Water District railway. It was bought new in 1922 and is still in use today. Heres a couple of pics of it. One in the old yellow and black scheme and one in the new red and black. Was looking at some pictures of the original car just now, that were taken in the early 30's. There have been quite a few changes to the car since then.All or most of the windows are changed as well as the trucks. These look like they may be off an alco switcher.Thanks, Ron.

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  4. hmas

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    Hi Ron
    snap
    Looks like Brill did the model T in railcars opposite sides of the world & they look the same.
    Tony

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    well almost the same
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    That car is almost identicle. Where was it taken? It looks like a nice original Brill car. The only difference I can see is the length of the hood where the radiator sits. It may just be that it is a bit newer model with different engine.The one I am modelling is actually made by Service Motor Truck Co. from Wabash, Ind. Brill designed the car in conjunction with Service and bought out the rights to the car in 1922. It was originally purchased for $16,000.00. Here are a few pics of the car in its original configuration. Seems Railroad Model Craftsman did an article on modelling these cars in the 2005 January issue. I will see if I can pick one up here as will cost me $14.00 from RMC. Too much for 1 article that may not even be what I am looking for. Thanks for the pics, Ron.

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  7. Ray Marinaccio

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    There are Brill 55 drawings in the April 1985 Railroad Model Craftsman.
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    Hi Ron, That article was written by a friend of mine, Blake Tatar. So, it was one of the few issues I knew I could find easily! The article won't be of much help I'm afraid, as it details modifying and painting a brass model to represent an Erie railcar. Apparently there were no known color photos of this car, so he goes on for a bit about using tones of black and white photos to determine a shade of red (comparing to caboose photos, passenger cars photos, etc also in black and white) where color photos also exist. He adds quite a bit of detail but it may be specific to Erie. There are no drawings.

    In the event you are interested in info on the brass model, it is an MTS Imports model, in HO
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    Thanks for the info on the drawings Ray. Turns out I just bought that issue with a bunch of other mags at a train show this weekend. Didn't even know I had it. The drawings are in O scale but I can resize them easy enough. Also door and window placement is different but as long as I have outside dimensions the rest should be easy. Thanks Gary for the info on that article. Would have just wasted my time looking for it. Thanks again everyone, Ron
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    The piccy is of a model 55 sitting forlornly at the rail museum.
    This page gives more info
    South Australian Railways Passenger Carriage Home Page Information
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    Thanks for the link hmas.Reading the description it sounds like exactly the same one I am modelling. Looks like a nice museum. Ron.
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    Hmm...I recall an article about building a Brill Car from scratch in an old issue of MR...

    Ah yes...July 1998...pg 98...but it is a Model 350. Regardless, that might help you in construction.
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    Thanks nkp174. I will look for that issue.Ron