Batteau 812

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  1. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Well it looks like I am off to making another boat, but this time it will not be as intricate as the Galleon and a little bit larger than 1/25 scale. The plans come from Model Ship Builders http://modelshipbuilder.com/page.php?178 They have an abundance of reference and building jigs and tricks. I am in the process of cutting the parts out. The plans are for a wooden ship but as usual, I will use cardstock as much as possible. If the ribs show through, then I will have to make the planking out of wood like on the San Salvador. See you all soon with my build process. batteau.jpg hist5_lg.jpg Image12.jpg Image11.jpg
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    Well Here I go again with the start of another build thread. The plans are for a wooden model but I will try to make it out of heavy cardstock. If I made it out of wood, all of the adjoining pieces would be glued and further strengthened with mini wood dowels. The boat had minimal nails and used wood pegs to hold it together. Metal was expensive and wood was plentiful, plus there were many artisans who worked with their hands and made their own tools and parts out of wood.

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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    The build continues and with he tedious part done, the rest will seem easier going. To quote an old saying, "going downstream with two oars". Translation, "Going with the flow but in control." 011.jpg 012.jpg 013.jpg 014.jpg 015.jpg 016.jpg 017.jpg 018.jpg 019.jpg
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    The build continues here are some updates on the build. I had some problems with the bow section and had to compensate for the curvature. The knee is very handy in forming the correct curvature. I built the gunwales and when it came time for the knees, I found that they did not match with the curve. I had to reposition the ribs to meet the correct bend. The correction will continue with the next posting. For the moment, The cardstock is morphing into a different media and is looking more like a wood skeleton. 020.jpg 021.jpg 022.jpg 023.jpg 024.jpg 025.jpg 026.jpg 027.jpg 028.jpg 029.jpg
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    This is a lot easier than the San Salvador Galleon and a lot less rigging. So, on with the updates and the hull is shaping up. A ruler is used to show the size of the model. Here is more on the ribs and the adjustment of the stem/bow. More to come and see you all soon with more updates.[​IMG] 030.jpg 031.jpg 032.jpg 033.jpg 034.jpg 035.jpg 036.jpg 037.jpg 038.jpg 039.jpg
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    These boats evolved into "Sharpies" I believe, 80 years plus or minus a few years, later. I have a cardboard model of a sharpie I designed, I doubt anyone would want to build it. You boat looks fantastic. I have much time sailing. I could single handily sail a 10 meter Pearson with a 11'6" beam, 5'9" fin keel, with a 150% Genoa sail and battened mainsail in a Marconi style. Roller furling on the Genoa made it possible to do this. What a blast. Sailboats rule. You are doing a great job on this. I did think it was wood till you wrote otherwise! :)


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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for looking in and for your photo upload. I will check this one out for future use.


    This boat is almost done but there are are a bunch of photos to edit for your enjoyment. My little princess decided to make a cameo and to give a size comparison. Enjoy and see you all soon with more updates. 040.jpg 041.jpg 042.jpg 043.jpg 044.jpg 045.jpg 046.jpg 047.jpg 048.jpg 049.jpg
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    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator Moderator

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    Simple awesome. Definitely much hard work. Excellent results. She's a beauty Silver!

    I rendered that New Haven Sharpie Sharpie some time back. I thought you might like to see how it looks. I think it would be too simple for you! :)




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    The work, effort, and energy that you are putting into this model is SPECTACULAR!!!
    I GREATLY ENJOY watching how you make these models.
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the comment and for looking in. I have just invested in a desk top computer and and a 20inch monitor. The graphics are outstanding. For almost all of my builds, I have been using a 8 year old laptop and a small notebook about 5 years old. I broke down and said that I need something better. This high definition screen makes all the models, mine and everyone else's pop out. I do not need to strain my vision anymore.

    The build continues. The side planking is attached and this model is definitely in the category of I can't believe that is paper mode. So far, the only wood or other medium, is to the rub bar/gunwale, mast, cannons and some metal fittings. Enjoy and I will be back with more stuff.
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    The base for the oar locks are made from heavily laminated cardstock. Two holes will be drilled to accommodate the oar locks. I started to sand down a dowel to the small side to fit the the drilled holes but I found out that the ends of the incense sticks are about the size needed and no need to sand down the dowels. the cleats centers are laminated but not that thick. The outside base of the cleats are laminated and attached at both sides. The cleat is sandwiched and clamped down to make the lamination tighter. With the jewelry pliers, made some ring attachments for the rope anchor/tie downs. See you all soon with more updates, until then, enjoy. 055.jpg 056.jpg 057.jpg 058.jpg 059.jpg 060.jpg 061.jpg
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    Here is the next batch of updates. This time on the cannon build. Enjoy and see you all soon for more stuff. 062.jpg 063.jpg 064.jpg 065.jpg 066.jpg 067.jpg 068.jpg 069.jpg 070.jpg 071.jpg
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    Amazing ! Very good !
    Thanks for your very good pictures :)
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    Thank you for looking in and for your comments, more to come this way.

    Now for some more detail updates for the batteau. The boom/spar is supposed to have two holes drilled in the center. The problem with these holes, is that they weakened the boom and it broke at one of these junctures. I assumed, that if the sailor came up with this problem, he would have used a field expedient measure and splinted the parts together. Instead of making another boom/spar for the sail, I did just that, Splinted the boom/spar and gave it a used look in the process. Accidents do happen and you have to adjust for them. The paper tissue sails do have that linen look to it and is not thick like a cotton cloth like a handkerchief or canvas scrap. The lanyard for the flagstaff, is operational and will lower and raise the flag. Enjoy and see you all soon with more update details

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    Thank you for looking in and for your comments, more to come this way.

    Now for some more detail updates for the batteau. The boom/spar is supposed to have two holes drilled in the center. The problem with these holes, is that they weakened the boom and it broke at one of these junctures. I assumed, that if the sailor came up with this problem, he would have used a field expedient measure and splinted the parts together. Instead of making another boom/spar for the sail, I did just that, Splinted the boom/spar and gave it a used look in the process. Accidents do happen and you have to adjust for them. The paper tissue sails do have that linen look to it and is not thick like a cotton cloth like a handkerchief or canvas scrap. The lanyard for the flagstaff, is operational and will lower and raise the flag. Enjoy and see you all soon with more update details

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    Thank you for looking in and for your comments, more to come this way.

    Now for some more detail updates for the batteau. The boom/spar is supposed to have two holes drilled in the center. The problem with these holes, is that they weakened the boom and it broke at one of these junctures. I assumed, that if the sailor came up with this problem, he would have used a field expedient measure and splinted the parts together. Instead of making another boom/spar for the sail, I did just that, Splinted the boom/spar and gave it a used look in the process. Accidents do happen and you have to adjust for them. The paper tissue sails do have that linen look to it and is not thick like a cotton cloth like a handkerchief or canvas scrap. The lanyard for the flagstaff, is operational and will lower and raise the flag. Enjoy and see you all soon with more update details
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for the double post. I had one of those cookies that covered the upload and I had to play around with the screen to get access to it, which made me do a double click. I hate it when the ad/bots take over and impede the operation of the site. I had to find the site to opt out of all of these inconvenient ads, Never had this problem with VISTA.
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    The batteau is by all means finished, the only things left are the details and a stand for it. I was thinking of making some figures for it but that may not happen. When I finished the main boat, it looked so bland, but with the addition of the stowage gear, it came alive. There are a few more items to add to the cargo but with these items, it already stands out. Of the gear, the only item that is not scratch built, is the gunpowder cask which I bought at a local hobby store. The oars are made from long wooden swab sticks with a paddle made from thick cardstock. the ramrod and the barrel sab, are made from the same dowel as the swab sticks but thinned down. The chest has a working lid and latch with a removable inner tray which rest on a raised inner lip.


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    Excellent, well done. I have the plans for a whaleboat and I can see it would do nicely for paper.
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for looking in. The whale boats have a more severe contour than the batteau and some had clinker boards. You have to be careful in building the planking. Also, I believe the whale dinghy has more ribs to it which will help in covering up the skeletal starved look that is hard to cover up with the paper planking. I hope to see your build soon. thanks for looking in and for your kind remarks. Enjoy and see you all soon with more details and a stand for the batteau.