WOW trainclown, that is great. i would have never thought that i could get that much excitement into that small of a space, you really know your stuff. just out of curiosity, what degree curves are we looking at here? i know the reverse loop is 18", but i was wondering about the rest. the software you used to create this with, does it produce a list of track materials? just wondering, it would be easier to buy the supplies if i know how much of what i need, i could just buy a little at a time. im still stunned at the imagination you have to create such wonderful track plans, this one is great, and i really appreciate the time and effort you put into this too. my wife even looked at the track plan and said she liked it, she said it was different and thats why she liked it. she even agreed to let me purchase the additional code 83 track and switches also. oh, by the way, what size of turnouts are you planning on this? trainclown, i dont know how i could thank you enough for all the time and effort you put in on this, but if you ever need something i can help you with, please, let me know. well, time to start figureing this out now, but i will keep you and everyone else updated with pictures of progress. thanks again trainclown, your great!:thumb: