thanks shaygetz & Dash10
I don't no to much about american railroads just picking up things as i go along the internet has been a great help, still got a long way tho' thinking about modeling 50's 60's era southern but knowing me it will be NYC, SOUTHERN, SANTA FE, and anything else i can get my hands on in 20ft of loft space, I'm glad i found this site i'm sure it will be a great help. ... answer the above' HO and yes it got just a little to close to my power drill, thanks for comments. just a note the avatar is a pic of one of my loco's GP18 171 sou.