well guys my new layout is on hold agin, due to my brother in law ( a.k.a brother zilla) he was over last night and asked me if i could build him a layout and he would pay me for it. we sat down and i asked him many qustions on what he would want, he said he would want it to be in n scale due to a small space he has no bigger than 60 inches long and 27 inches wide. i was ok what would you like to run on it he said the loco's you would see to day, with a small yard some where and if possable two trains running at the same time and (he would like it to be a loop to loop) i was like would you want any switching he said some, i was like ok, so i took all the info he gave me after he left and hit the pc to come up with a track plan but with that kind of space i came up with nothing, that is why i am here with this, i haven't done a small layout in this small of a space and with the locos he wants to run are the longer ones, i think they wont look right on a tight radis like that but he is willing to pay me for it so i took a part of bench work i had maed to add to my work bench and it was buy luck the same size he would want. and all track would be code 80 flex due to i have 8 cases of it for the new layout. so i would like any plansif possable. that would fit into a space that i can show him and we can then get a better idea on what he would want. (he never aske how much i would charge him for this .)