The laser print makes it shiny, but it's hell to roll or fold as it cracks. The glue also pulls away for some reason.Extremely clean looking nacelle!!
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The dome is a gold party plate heated up with a heat gun that is push molded into furniture foam with a plastic ball. It lights up very well, much like the Smithsonian Enterprise.
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I wouldn't waste my efforts using anything printed with laser printers as the toner sits on top of the paper and will eventually all flake off. You'll end up with a white model. I've said this over and over, Pigment Ink printers is the only way to go. Pigment Ink is U.V. resistant, and is considered archival, 100 years at least. The model looks very clean though. Maybe if you seal it with some clear flat or gloss paint, it might seal, but I really don't know.
I did a post about Pigment ink showing how it aligns with the paper matrix and is bonded by electrons to the paper's matrix. Dye ink just sits inbetween and will run when wet. Pigment ink will not run when wet, unless soaked and the paper starts to come apart. Pigment Ink printers do require more maintenance, or constant use. Constant use prevents the heads from clogging.
I did a post about Pigment ink showing how it aligns with the paper matrix and is bonded by electrons to the paper's matrix. Dye ink just sits inbetween and will run when wet. Pigment ink will not run when wet, unless soaked and the paper starts to come apart. Pigment Ink printers do require more maintenance, or constant use. Constant use prevents the heads from clogging.
I wouldn't waste my efforts using anything printed with laser printers as the toner sits on top of the paper and will eventually all flake off. You'll end up with a white model. I've said this over and over, Pigment Ink printers is the only way to go. Pigment Ink is U.V. resistant, and is considered archival, 100 years at least. The model looks very clean though. Maybe if you seal it with some clear flat or gloss paint, it might seal, but I really don't know.
I did a post about Pigment ink showing how it aligns with the paper matrix and is bonded by electrons to the paper's matrix. Dye ink just sits inbetween and will run when wet. Pigment ink will not run when wet, unless soaked and the paper starts to come apart. Pigment Ink printers do require more maintenance, or constant use. Constant use prevents the heads from clogging.
Thanks I am going to check into that!
THE DC
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I wouldn't waste my efforts using anything printed with laser printers as the toner sits on top of the paper and will eventually all flake off. You'll end up with a white model. I've said this over and over, Pigment Ink printers is the only way to go. Pigment Ink is U.V. resistant, and is considered archival, 100 years at least. The model looks very clean though. Maybe if you seal it with some clear flat or gloss paint, it might seal, but I really don't know.
I did a post about Pigment ink showing how it aligns with the paper matrix and is bonded by electrons to the paper's matrix. Dye ink just sits inbetween and will run when wet. Pigment ink will not run when wet, unless soaked and the paper starts to come apart. Pigment Ink printers do require more maintenance, or constant use. Constant use prevents the heads from clogging.
I will hunt that down and check that out!
I have had bad experienced with laser prints too. I'll be interested in finding out the technical explanation.
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I have had bad experienced with laser prints too. I'll be interested in finding out the technical explanation.
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I think the reason it cracks is that it gets baked like a ceramic, and then because it's so brittle, it breaks along the seam in flakes that are harder and cracks where the weaker places are?
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I think the reason it cracks is that it gets baked like a ceramic, and then because it's so brittle, it breaks along the seam in flakes that are harder and cracks where the weaker places are?
Here is the work station!! whether for soldering or cutting paper model parts.
More progress;...
the fix I used on the intercooler pieces, black paper over the cracked part on the fold.
the fix I used on the intercooler pieces, black paper over the cracked part on the fold.
Nice fix, you must be a Marine at heart, Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
THE DC
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Good job with the creative solutions!
What do you do to color the white edges? I find colored pencils stable, but not always effective. Markers bleed into the part. Oil pastels sometimes work, but sometimes don't seem to make enough coloration to blend.
I ask, because some of the cracking in laser prints might be fixed with a similar solution to the edging problem?
What do you do to color the white edges? I find colored pencils stable, but not always effective. Markers bleed into the part. Oil pastels sometimes work, but sometimes don't seem to make enough coloration to blend.
I ask, because some of the cracking in laser prints might be fixed with a similar solution to the edging problem?
I haven't even gone there yet, I have full-spectrum markers and pencils, but chalk might be a good answer. Heating the laser print part and slowly working it works well, also holding it in position until it cools.
If I may suggest, I use water colour paints and a "dry brush" technique for painting the edges. I will also premix the colours that I need for the project t hand.
The paints that I use are KOH-I-NOOR Tempera paints, that I order from AMAZON. Now with that being said, sargent art acrylic paint from Walmart is also good.
The paints that I use are KOH-I-NOOR Tempera paints, that I order from AMAZON. Now with that being said, sargent art acrylic paint from Walmart is also good.
Lower decks did a good job on this one!
I like it.
I like it.
WOW! Jim, what is that? It looks like a physical model, a bit like paper, but all those lights make it look like plastic. Or is it CG?
So basically this is the Enterprise B with the nacelles of the Enterprise E. Pretty nice combination.
THE DC
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I never thought of dry brushing water colors! Good idea.
I figured that watercolors would bleed more than markers but dry brushing makes sense, regarding how to avoid that. I had thought acrylics would be required.
Pastels work but can flake a lot and become messy.
good idea!
THE DC
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So basically this is the Enterprise B with the nacelles of the Enterprise E. Pretty nice combination.
Kind of how they Enterprise E "borrowed" from the Excelsior, but used an oval primary hull, and hump-back nacelles...
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