SA-43 Hammerhead Fighter

Revell-Fan

Co-Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Aug 1, 2009
9,209
8,103
183
Vreden
I have just checked the proportions of the model. They are wrong. :(

This is a quick overlay of orthographic renderings of the original CG model:

SA43-10Hammerhead2.jpg

You can clearly see that the outlines do not match.

You should not start unfolding before making some changes to the mesh.

Source of the original renderings:
http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=741
 

zathros

-----SENIOR ADMINISTRATOR----
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Apr 6, 2013
12,048
7,353
228
Yup, this happens all the time. You can get away with it on fictional stuff though , and it would be a cool model nonetheless, many would build it too, as there is nothing else, but for reality based models, no way. Valiant effort though. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rhaven Blaack

Sky Seeker

Well Established Member
Jun 2, 2015
1,143
1,006
95
I need to clean up some stuff and create the interior of the drop-in cockpit but this one is do-able and has the landing-gear and I re-worked the rest of the mesh and it has been cleaned up to unfold. Going to take some careful work around the intake area and wing join but when is that ever NOT the case.. Who wants to unfold this beast? or at least help out?

View attachment 157980
This design looks sharp!:) I'll be happy to do a test build of it, after the Vorchan is done of course!

Sky Seeker
:tank:
 

Gandolf50

Researcher of obscure between war vehicles...
Staff member
Moderator
Jan 28, 2013
1,351
1,588
96
New Mexico USA
I have just checked the proportions of the model. They are wrong. :(

This is a quick overlay of orthographic renderings of the original CG model:

View attachment 157985

You can clearly see that the outlines do not match.

You should not start unfolding before making some changes to the mesh.

Source of the original renderings:
http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=741
It is not the same model! Just a variation that is buildable with ( cockpit in the works ... DROP-IN as in the TV show) and fold up workable landing gear and such! This one is buildable!

You are comparing to this one...SAAB Wildcard version...
SAABWildcard.jpg it is still off a slight bit. SAABWildcard2.jpg as the intakes are not slanted as far as the original, and the fuselage is a bit narrow but matches your comparison fairly well. Trouble with the real version ( I know we want the REAL DEAL) it is UGLY! and almost impossible to make buildable. Was looking at references and these lines are Nasty for paper! WildcardsClip7.jpg WildcardsClip6.jpg and the landing gear! acckkk!! hammer03.jpg That rear gear will NEVER WORK!
Got some of the original concept sketches...and the mesh in the TV show is fairly close.. but not the TV full scale version ..they goofed on a lot of things..

Space-Above-and-Beyond-Hammerhead-Art-3.jpg ... Hard to tell but in this screen grab looks like the intake is flattened more like my version WildcardsClip2.jpg ... this screen grab view shows the curves of the rear sections that will play hell with a paper version... WildcardsClip5.jpg

So all and all I'll chalk this one up to an exercise and file it away to the Maybe Someday If I GET AROUND TO IT FOLDER...
 

Revell-Fan

Co-Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Aug 1, 2009
9,209
8,103
183
Vreden
Ahh, I see! Now I got it!

I agree about the ... (cough) "landing gear" (cough) on the mockup. It looks like a pair of tooth picks... :lolsign:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gandolf50

zathros

-----SENIOR ADMINISTRATOR----
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Apr 6, 2013
12,048
7,353
228
Worse than the Boeing B-17's!!! :)
 

Gandolf50

Researcher of obscure between war vehicles...
Staff member
Moderator
Jan 28, 2013
1,351
1,588
96
New Mexico USA
Ahh, I see! Now I got it!

I agree about the ... (cough) "landing gear" (cough) on the mockup. It looks like a pair of tooth picks... :lolsign:
Yep.. just for show...actually...not for show...just to haul the thing around from location to location...as these things would never fold up into the craft...it would be a physical impossibility.

Worse than the Boeing B-17's!!! :)
Well at least the B17 would fold up...
B17_Av_4501_DA_main-gear_p142_W.png
but most of the time when landing the plane....
b-17-thumper-belly-landing.jpg lots of belly flops.

Hey...doesn't the hammerhead remind you of the SR-71B Blackbird in away?
 

zathros

-----SENIOR ADMINISTRATOR----
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Apr 6, 2013
12,048
7,353
228
I think even a bad model of the Hammerhead would be widely accepted. Make one wheels up to avoid that hassles. People would eat this up.
 

Revell-Fan

Co-Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Aug 1, 2009
9,209
8,103
183
Vreden
I think even a bad model of the Hammerhead would be widely accepted.
I don't think so. If you make a model, just do it "right". Not "bad". I would consider a "bad" model having lots of intersections, parts which are unfolded in a way that you may break your fingers during assembly and which is too simplified (e. g. edgy and flat). This one looks like a fairly good interpretation of the subject. ;)
 

Ron Caudillo

Creative Advisory Consultant
Staff member
Moderator
Feb 9, 2004
416
311
58
Davenport, Iowa
I think even a bad model of the Hammerhead would be widely accepted. Make one wheels up to avoid that hassles. People would eat this up.
I wouldn't consider it "bad". My models tend to be "close enough", can never get it 100% due to the limitations of paper anyway. I for one, have always wanted one!

Ron Caudillo
 

zathros

-----SENIOR ADMINISTRATOR----
Staff member
Administrator
Moderator
Apr 6, 2013
12,048
7,353
228
This is true, with using water forming techniques I described a long time ago, many limitations can be overcome. You must have a printer that uses Pigment Ink only, or be willing to pain the part by hand. Dan B King used water forming on his Discovery model, and the front is a multi-compound curves, the makes the ship prop worthy for any movie. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sky Seeker

Gandolf50

Researcher of obscure between war vehicles...
Staff member
Moderator
Jan 28, 2013
1,351
1,588
96
New Mexico USA
Left lots of "Room" for greebles as well as advanced or basic...like include the landing gear or not.. open or closed.. cockpit or not ( not created yet BTW ) or at least.. not fitted as a drop in unit. lots of fiddly bits.. that need attention to check fit and workability...

Hammer-L-gear.jpg Landing gear with doors removed and open interior shows all the available space to fold them up...( got the interior surround but removed to show space)..

only areas that will be problems are the intakes and the nose... but the nose is broken down to basic elements so won't be that difficult...
 

dirkpitt289

Active Member
Mar 9, 2018
157
282
40
54
I'm a HUGE fan of S,AAB and would love to find a model of the Hammerhead in any medium.