Clever Santos and his Star Trek kits...

[THE DC]

Does anyone know where the Clever Santos page went that had the Star Trek kits?


Clever Santoro Lopes made a series of kits some time ago.


Does anyone know how to contact him?

He posted a wide variety of Star Trek kits some time ago and I was experimenting with one yesterday!


Any build threads, or online pics of completed models, would also be appreciated!!!


Thanks!

 

[Revell-Fan]

Here you go:

Clever PaperModel

Site dedicado ao Papermodelismo

cleversantoro.wordpress.com

 

[zathros]

Here you go:

Clever PaperModel

Site dedicado ao Papermodelismo

cleversantoro.wordpress.com

You are a bastion of information!!

 

[THE DC]

Here you go:

Clever PaperModel

Site dedicado ao Papermodelismo

cleversantoro.wordpress.com

Thanks much!


My old bookmark didn't connect.


A couple of the build pics may help me place some parts.


Much appreciated!

 

[spaceagent-9]

Thanks for this thread, and thanks to Zathros for the link, I put them all in one folder. the Galaxy class instructions can be downloaded at the Galaxy link and you can hit download on the upper left button and then cut and paste from your browser's download section.

 

[Revell-Fan]

You are welcome! The address must have changed some time ago. I almost thought the models were gone. Grab everything now, they are not covered by the Wayback machine.

 

[THE DC]

You are welcome! The address must have changed some time ago. I almost thought the models were gone. Grab everything now, they are not covered by the Wayback machine.

Thanks again; I am beginning to think that you should change your name to "Paper Oracle"?

Has a nice ring to it...[how does paper ring?]...


Let me test the sage, ever further..?



There was a Nova Class model, USS Equinox, produced by Warpgondeln, from a website titled PSF, or Planet StarFreak.

Do you know how to contact that author? That site also appears to have been lost to the rapids of web-surf.


The kit mentioned had some features that Clever's missed, graphically, but there were some odd build features not clear, with no instructions again. I haven't seen any build threads or pics to reference so maybe the author could help.


Slainte~


[Half-way to St. Pat's day....]

 

[spaceagent-9]

Thanks Revelle-fan! We need to know these things, before the internet is dumped again and they are lost.

 

[Revell-Fan]

There was a Nova Class model, USS Equinox, produced by Warpgondeln, from a website titled PSF, or Planet StarFreak.

Do you know how to contact that author? That site also appears to have been lost to the rapids of web-surf.

Indeed! Fortunately it was archived by the Wayback machine:

planet (0) StarFreak - Paper model: USS Equinox

The email address is stated there as well and the links still work. He is German, BTW.

 

[mijob]

Thats a great find of you. I love the wayback machine.

 

[THE DC]

Indeed! Fortunately it was archived by the Wayback machine:

planet (0) StarFreak - Paper model: USS Equinox

The email address is stated there as well and the links still work. He is German, BTW.

Thanks!


I am exploring the combining of Clever's Kit with Warpgondeln' after matching their scaling.

Each kit is missing something that the other kit has for the studio Digi. If I can figure it out, I'l post a Franken-kit with instructions!

 

[mijob]

Im already looking forward to see how you gone build this combination of models. Thats would be a nuce chalkenge.

 

[Revell-Fan]

Cool idea!

 

[Rhaven Blaack]

Thanks!


I am exploring the combining of Clever's Kit with Warpgondeln' after matching their scaling.

Each kit is missing something that the other kit has for the studio Digi. If I can figure it out, I'l post a Franken-kit with instructions!

I wish you the very best of luck with it and I am looking forward to see how it turns out!

 

[THE DC]

Working on it. I tried getting the email from the Planet StarFreak. page, but won't open. Probably a dead link?


I've built a raw Clever model and halfway through a Planet StarFreak version; just to compare structure. Then I'll have to shrink/expand them to get in the same size ratio!

 

[Revell-Fan]

Copy the email address and paste it in your email program. You should get a note if it got through after you have sent your message.

 

[THE DC]

I finished the test build of the Clever model and am finishing up the Warpgondeln kit.

The graphics are much better on the Warpgondeln kit, and it is an odd fit, but is going together more smoothly. It does have several fit issues, so far, including the secondary deflector fit at the nose of the forward hull, and the spine bays/impulse engine. The Main deflector fit is challenging too. Still, so far, this is better than the Clever kit. The upper, main hull had gaps and the bridge area was, well, not publishable!!!

The spinal bays on the Clever model were better defined though. The nacelles were well fitted too.

I'll finish the test build on the Warpgondeln version, then explore how to merge the two kits for one good finish!

I will say, the Warpgondeln kit has much more accurate graphics, save a couple of small points. The secondary deflector is not complete and the spinal bays, including impulse engine, isn't as defined as in the Clever kit. The Clever kit leaves off several indented window areas and mucks-ip the sensor band that is supposed to be around the fore perimeter of the bridge housing; its along the rounded lower deck, where windows should be.

Examining the two kits, using the graphics from the Eaglemoss book that was recently made available, makes for an interesting comparison!

 

[mijob]

Canyou give us a peak to see what you are doing it sounds verry intresting.

 

[Rhaven Blaack]

I am looking forward to seeing how this turns out!

 

[THE DC]

Canyou give us a peak to see what you are doing it sounds verry intresting.

Here's a try!


I have run into a building block, so I'm sharing pics and seeing advice.

I REALLY wish designers would include directions, like DHWALE always provides. I grew up building plastic models, not connecting puzzles, and its a different mindset required. I prefer planning how to fit and hold, not how can it fit!


Here's my block.

The Nova class doesn't really have a primary hull/secondary hull fit, as there is not hull separation; temporary or emergency slips. Its all one hull. Sorry the fore "arrow-head" part, often called a primary hull in Trek, is a upper hull, while the aft/engine section is a lower hull.


Not that we have our terms to communicate, I ask for your help.


The joining of these hulls is problematic.

Please look at the first image for the separate hulls, with glue tabs (yes, I know there's a strong bias against using glue tabs, but this is a test/rough build; where I am trying to figure out how the author intended the model to build-up). It this first pic, you may note that the main sensor is a flat panel that glues to the top of the slightly curved navigational deflector (the blue thing). On either side of the dining of these pieces is a bit of overlap on either side; both having there own glue-tab. The lower hull has a curve outer hull that surrounds the navigational deflector (the blue and gold thing).

These pieces are supposed to win and enclose the navigational deflector; joining the lower hull to the upper hull.


There-in lies the problem.