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redracer, never made it up there, we were supposed to go and didn't make it. Still planning on going, just don't know when, work has been getting busier and busier. I will call them tomorrow and ask roger....will email you with the outcome! brian

redracer, sorry to hear that. I will probably be up there in the next week or so and will look for it at the shop and ask them in person if Roger or Nellie is there. brian

Doug, I would say be patient with Roger Hartmann, he has a lot of stuff going on, they have about ten businesses going up there! He and his wife are really nice people. I was up there last fall and spent a LONG time talking to him, and next time I am up there have an invitation to see his...

http://www.hartmannrr.com/ Roger Hartmann and his wife own the place, email Roger with your request. He has literally thousands of European kits, many are not even in his store, so you have to ask! It is a a paradise for those of us who model European trains. He has tons of stuff like old...

Dick, your modeling is incredible as always...more! more! :cool:

upguy, that looks just like my layout did yesterday... I like your weathering on the cars!