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Chris, a killer Valentine's Day gift would have been a BIG win, for me, in my opinion. Part of my professional life involves negotiation, and when the other side has intimate knowledge of your needs and wants, then you are in BIG trouble.

This is not a quest, it is turning into a saga. Here is the maximum available room. The bottom of the window on the west wall is 3' from the floor. In acse the dimensions cannot be easily read, the north wall is 12' long, the west/window wall is 10'6" long, and the south wall is 9' long...

I've been doing some more fiddling and think that Fred may be onto something in terms of ditching the isalnd concept and I think it may work in my available space. I do know that I want a yard, and the minimum ability to have a continuous run with one train while switching another. Having...

Revised Layout Here is my revised layout per what I think is Santa Fe Jack's recommendations on the yard. The different colors set off the three blocks. Thanks to all who have tried to help out. If you have anything additional to add, I would love to hear it.

Yeah, I have already checked it out. I admit however, that your layout can hardly be described as a small point-to-point in my view.

"You could try a turnout on the west curve, coming straight south. That could lead into the west end of the yard. A similar arrangement could gather up the yard on the east end, bringing it up to the east part of the outer loop. That would give you a ladder yard, which would be most excellent!"...

Chris, I probably will invest in the book, hopefully I can get it at my LHS without having to wait to order it on-line. If necessary, I can use a smaller switcher for yard operations, but you are correct regarding the utility, or lack thereof, of the SE track. I haven't really thought of...

One more thing, I get a certain amount of peaceful pleasure running trains alone, so it will be pretty much a one man operation although my neighbor sometimes brings over his kids and they assist with operations. My neigbor drinks beer and is the official uncoupler for the N agricultural spurs...

Santa Fe Jack, I agree about the yard on the south. A yard is something that I really want, though, no matter how small. I am definitely open to suggestions about the design and operation. No matter how much reading I do about yard design, I am still trying to get hte hang of it. J...

MasonJar Right now I have 18" around three sides which is fine. I'm pretty tall and have no problems reaching the center of the existing 4 foot width, which is taken up with a ridgeline used as a scenic divider. I plan on using 4 axle diesels, with a desert motif. I live after all in...

Of course, Chris is right. I am trying to avoid the access issue, obviously, but there is a 4 foot square plus a little more slightly off center which can be cut out for access, and which will probably happen. An around the room shelf is not a possibiilty, at best an "L" (9 X 8) could be...

Dimensions are 8 ft X 7 ft. I know getting to the middle might be a reach, but it will be constructed in two 7 X 4 modules and then attached. Will take some careful planning, but I'm okay with that. Plenty of aisle space around the perimeter.

I have an HO layout which I am not particularly pleased with, primarily due to lack of design sense. Decided to expand the size and have come up with the following loosely based on the Atlas St Paul Central, and would appreciate anyone's critiques. I plan n running at least one train while...

I appreciate the advice, engineshop. Needless to say, the yard appears to be the major area for improvement. I'm trying to visualize what you have suggested and will play with it later on this evening. The original plan that I adapted had a portion of the yard nearerr where the paper mill is...

Thanks for your comments. I plan on diesel set in 1960's/70's Maine. I believe that I can get Maine Central, Bangor & Aroostook and Canadian Pacific diesels along with rolling stock from the same RR's. Rolling stock can also include B&M and maybe New Haven. As for 3railguy's comment, I will...

Any suggestions on this N scale logging track plan will be welcome. I want to run two trains with DCC. Initial ideas on operation will be one loco delivering cut logs to the saw mill, and picking up loaded wood chip gondolas, loaded lumber cars, and empty log cars and delivering the wood chips...