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The aisle on the left is actually 27" wide which is enough room for my 250lb. butt to walk between with room to spare. Now the right side is going to be a little tighter but understand that there will never be more than a few people "viewing" this layout. Not a public affair by any stretch so...

Alright, I finally got started on the framing and heres just a few quick shots. I am no carpenter so please dont laugh (or you can but just dont tell me:D ). This will be an around the room with center island (I guess). Originally I was going to run HO but I just think N is going to work better...

Pretty cool! This gives me a whole new appreciation for that aggrevating, neverending, stack of pennies in the console of the goat.:D

So, anyone heard a cause on this yet. I haven't seen anything and I guess its a little early yet. I cant help but think RCT.:D Ahh, what do I know, they may not even be using it there.:oops:

Man, I tell ya, if I just had another 1' 6", that would eliminate most of my issues. Of coarse you do still have the issue of a deep shelf to deal with as MJ pointed out. Thank you!

Thank you for your input! Beautiful layout!

Umm, yeah, thats what I meant too.:thumb:

Yeah, the whole "growing in different directions", definately see that as a valid point. :D The shelf being to deep is another consideration. Now I ask you, is the advice on THE-GAUGE only worth a grain of salt?:eek: :D . Just kidding, again I truly appreciate everyones input, it is very...

O.K. This is just flat embarassing.:oops: . I have people drawing me a diagram of my layout and I've not posted one of my own. Thank you very much for your input. I'm so stinking torn on this deal. Everyone that I have asked at work which they would prefer, UNANIMOUSLY said the turnaround to...

Very true on hiding the curves and I definately like the idea of a helix on each end. Only thing is I would be concerned about how many cars I could run on a tight helix without umm "operational issues". I could actually get close to a 27" outer radius and still have 2' of walk through space...

I didn't want the duck under simply because when freinds or family come over, I hate that they would have to squat under to get to the middle,buuuttt, they may just have to. Or, I could create a swing up section as previously suggested. I've pretty much decided that I'm going to go around the...

If I do the HO (which I'm leaning heavily twords) I may very well do something like that. Either a "duck-under" as previously suggested or some minimum scenary on a swing of some type. Thank you for your input!

Sorry I dont have a picture but the door will be in the dead center of the open part of the U and that is the 11' side(the open side of the U). The length of if would be the 17'.

Thank you very much. I was trying to avoid that but I think your right that if I'm going to run HO this would be the best solution. The link you posted of the B&M is excellent and an inspiration. I truly appreciate your help and advice.

Thank you for pointing out my boo boo there. It is not a point to point but a turnback arrangement. You have nailed my problem right on the head. I can either offset the turnbacks to get a 28-30" radius and give up some length of mainline on one side or retain the 24" radius with side by...

Thanks for the clarification on the radius. I think I could get a 24" radius in on the return points but I just wasn't sure that would be substantial enough for some fairly long trains and 3 axle units. (ie..SD80mac's etc...) What would the limit of a 24" radius be in terms of car length? I'm...

Well, as far as the era, it would be early 80's to present Norfolk Southern-Southern-NW. The location will be completely imaginary and will incoporate primarily coal, general freight and I'm sure more as I get further into the planning. Now, I'm going to ask a stupid question, when we say a 22"...

I'm in the ole "do I do N or HO" dilemma. I have a decent amount of HO rollingstock but I only have an 11' x 17' room to work with. I guess that sounds like a decent amount of room but I want to do a u-shaped point to point along the walls of the room with the door to the room being at the...

Very nice!