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I have to admit this is a neat idea, but remember that accidents happen and in the case of model railroading - liquids and models do not always mix. JD

Good point. Kind of like a car repair facility. JD

As for work, I conduct insurance fraud investigations which is a never-ending battle. Weekends are for field trialing, hunting, railfanning and model railroading or doing what my wife tells me to do. JD

How much detail do you need? JD

I obviously need to get out more often or move to another part of California where I can see such movements. Regardless, in context with this thread it would make for a unique modeling opportunity. JD Caterpillar still ships by rail, and I think most heavy equipment manufacturers ship by...

I just learned something new. I did not know there were any large equipment manufacturers that still shipped by rail. JD

Another possibility and one that would require some really difficult structure building would be to do a chemical plant ie: Dow, Dupont etc. Dow Chemical in Pittsburg is a huge facility with 40-50 tank cars and their own switching engine. JD

Interesting site indeed. Perhaps I should send some contributions for the industries in this area. JD

Obviously shyness is not a problem<g> JD

I would have to agree with this statement. I know it makes for boring railfanning and modeling modern era locomotives but what else can a capitalistic society do. JD

Keep in mind that whatever you do that access to the water softener and furnace is a on-going maintenance issue and your benchwork will need to allow flexibility. JD

I am not technical myself, but this looks to be a two-level layouy and if so where is the helix? JD - ignorant of many things including model railroading

Wise words to model by. JD

What impresses me is the depiction of the water flowing past/around the concrete pilings. The ripple effect both upstream and downstream is something that demonstrably adds to the realism of the overall concept. JD

I like the "geezer slider" concept. While I am not there just yet, I will keep the idea in mind for when I am - and like we all will be<g> JD

I could really annoy my wife by putting something like this in our backyard<g> We all would love some photos I am sure. Have you thought about contacting a local historical society? JD

Hey, Worm - can I send you some stuff to work on? I have a good friend in my club that does work of your caliber and seeing your work for the first time and having known, Paul and his work, I consider yours on his equal. JD BTW - as far as too much rust, who cares - it is SP and...

MasonJar hit the nail on the head. You need to know you are going and want to accomplish before you decide on a specific track plan. It has taken me three years to develope a plan that encompasses a modern era industrial complex along with a local yard that I can accept and be happy with...

Does anyone know of any resource similiar to Thomas Guide that has current and former trackage maps for various states? In particular I am looking for California first (since I live here) and secondly Washington (where my wife and I want to live) JD

Stump. does this book also cover yard operations and design? JD