For those of you who are not sure about eBay, here are some nice things to know. I was browsing eBay 4 days ago, and spotted hoppers for sale by a hobbiest. He was cutting down on some of his rolling stock, so he was passing around great deals. I managed to get 4 brand new 4 bay hoppers (HO scale) from Athearn for only $17!! I also got 5 brand new 2 bay hoppers, also HO scale from Athearn for $30!! A hobby shop, or even an online store, would have these wonderful prices. It is definatly worth it to get an eBay membership. I've had mine for about 2 years now, and I never regret signing up. I have delt with 100 or more transactions, and only 1 was bad, and of couse, it was straightend out. So don't be afraid to sign up for an eBay account.