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Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by Drew Toner, Feb 9, 2004.
and an 0-6-0,
Can some one explain to me the names and deignation differances of these two locos. The one with the tender is a Bachman (hong kong) and the short one has no info on the bottom.
as you can tell, I don't know my loco's very well
This one has no info on it either...
All I can say about the top one is it's a side tank loco, but you probably already know that.
The bottom one is an AHM or Tyco Plymouth MDT. Some folks will say it's a DDT, but it's too big to be a DDT and the protruding doghouse/wart towards the front is common to MDTs. Although Plymouth had many model designations (MDT, DDT, JDT, etc), tonnage and appearnce varies even umong the same model.
The AHM or Tyco is the best HO representation of a Plymouth I've seen. Others tend to be chubby and look like they belong in S or On30 scale. They run well for a 30 or 40 year old design, durable and readily available. Fun to bash and as you can see from the photo's, the sky is hte limit!
The top one, an 0-6-0t, or "tank engine", is most probably an old Mantua.
The tank engine looks like it's either an old Mantua or Varney. The body is die cast metal isn't it? You could search around Ebay and see if you can find any others like it there.
If the 0-6-0T is a Mantua, it's what they called the "Little Six". One like the 0-6-0 tender loco was called the "Big Six".
Those are just a couple of old engines I uncovered the other day. Thinking of what to do with them.
OK Jon, looks like an MDT from the website. I'd agree with that. I like those mufflers and exhaust pipe on the roof of your Plymouth, looks mean!!
Tank engine, yes it is die cast metal, pretty heavy for it's size.
Now for the Bachmann. I opened it up to discover that it's driving gear on the main driven axel, is cracked. I think it is because the axels must have slipped on the gear.
Do the connecting rods from wheel to wheel, on the Bachmann, have to be 90 deg. or 180 deg. out when I glue it back together, or are replacement gears readily available?
You could try contacting Bachmann, but I really don't know if seperate parts are available.
The conecting rods have to be 90 degrees out, it's called 'quartering'. I had an old bowser that wasn't quartered properly and it had alot of driver binding problems until I fixed it
Thanks Drew, it's pretty simple if you want to do one that is similar:
The muffler and pipe is just a small resistor, bent to shape.
The "cap" is just a bit of brown wire insulation, with a nearly through slice at the top to form the cap. If I recall, I filled the hole in the cap with the same brown latex paint I used to paint the rest of the exhaust "rust"
Oh, and the coffe can keeps water out of hte air intake, it's larger insulation from 12 ga. romex, painted Folgers red and a silver top
I'm putting a resistor, ... I mean a muffler,... on the roof of mine too. That looks like the way a machine really would look :thumb: :thumb:
Did you scratch build, or is the carbody a kit, or did you up grade it at all?
Hello Drew. Regarding that Mantua 0-6-0T, the small side tank loco, yes, your photo looks just like a model I have in my own train room right now. It is the first loco kit I ever built, about 35 years ago!
Anyway, if you disassemble to replace that gear, you might scribe the driver and axle end before dis-assembling. The "quartering" must be pretty close to exact when you re-assemble, or you will get a nasty bind in the mechanism. The scribe marks are an alignment guide for re-assembling. Also, be sure NOT to bend the axle during the process.
Mantua gears should be available from most well-stocked hobby shops even though Mantua sold out a couple of years ago. Good luck with your repairs!
Ok, Stu, I'll take it easy when I open it up. And scribe the wheel/axel first.
The Bachmann unit had stripped it's driving gear and the wheels/rods wewre binding on it too. I have moved the wheels to be 90degrees out and it runs pretty good now
Mantua also called the first one the "Booster". It was also the first HO engine I ever built, back in 1954. Still have it. You're right, it's cast white metal.
Bachmann guarantees their locomotives forever, if you don't try to modify the mechanism yourself. You just need to pay shipping both ways, and they'll repair it for you. If you want to repower it, Northwest Shortline makes repowering kits and replacement gears for most common plastic & die cast steam locos.