What a MESS

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by Renovo PPR, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    Yoooow, you're too fast. Didn't even get the hood closed on that one and you're there. Try again. :)
  2. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    1. Thanks for the kind words!

    2. I think that's the most important thing. A lot of what I'm doing is to give everyone more ways to communicate. In the long run, what features you end up using are the ones that were successful.

    Of course, a lot of it is behind the scenes too. For example, I think we'll be seeing a lot less spam (knock on wood).

  3. CCT70

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    :1795: :gunfighter:

    Hey Peter, is there a size limit on personal smilies? Mine are the same size as the default ones here on the baord, but when I uploaded them, they got really shrunken down. I figure it was a size limitation?
  4. Tommybza

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    how can i stop the clicking ,every time i want to look for some thing it clicks then a new window opens up, I have a web site for my weather station and it was a big deal to get it working good . now this could take some time i know that. but how do i stop the clicking ,And I lost the live feeds from members posts . thankks
    T
  5. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    I know what you mean, and that's definately something I want to fix. Annoys me too when it opens up a new window.
  6. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    To be honest, this is a new thingy I put in and wasn't sure how its going to work out. Maybe it does resize them. There is a size limit, but the limit is several times the average smilie size, close to Avatar size in fact.
  7. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

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    I think they shrink down just for previews.

    As a test, my own custom avatars:

    :dunno:
    :nono:
    :nopics:
    :spam:
    :splatter:

    Nope... shrunk all of 'em but Dunno and nono
    I guess there is a hight and width limit.
  8. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

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    Great Pictures Wayne.:dance:
  9. Torpedo

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    Inline Images

    Since some people are complaining about limits on inline images, let me give my druthers. No inline images. Why, because people abuse them by posting a ton of huge images to discussion threads (versus photo threads).

    This may be fine for those with broadband connections, but it is not fine for people on dialup. Some folks in rural areas of the US are limited to 26.6K (not 56K) because of a telco practices. Try reading a thread that asked a technical question with that kind of speed, only to have a member answer by posting a string of high resolution images as an "answer." Even so-called 56K connections and 128K ISDN are unsuited for those kind of graphics.

    And since this is a world wide forum, non-US members should be considered. I know that in some parts of the world, people used to be charged by the amount of data they downloaded. I don't know if that is still the case, but if it is, it is another reason to limit images in a reasonable manner.

    Another forum I belong to (also running vBulletin software) automatically presents thumbnails (limit four) at the bottom of a post. If a user wants to look at the photos, he can click on the thumbnails and download them. If he doesn't, he isn't forced to eat the bandwidth. In my opinion, that is the perfect solution.

    And Peter, let me add my thanks for the job you are doing.
  10. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

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    Well Said "T" :) :)
  11. Squidbait

    Squidbait Recovering ALCO-holic

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    Torpedo,

    I agree, but I suspect that unless Peter is willing to host the images on his server, this won't be an option.

    I'm not familiar enough with the software engine to say whether it will do thumbnails for off-site hosted (like photobucket) pics. If it does, that would be great.
  12. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    Actually, I do host the images. You can put them in a thread as an "attachment" or in the gallery (which I'm working on this morning).

    The 'problem' with this is that we have two camps here. One wants the full image to show in the thread, the other says they want the thumbnail because showing the full image slows down the site for them.

    Bandwidth isn't a very big issue for me right now. Not that it's unimportant, but the hosting company that provides the server gives plenty of bandwidth in the package. We'll be restricted by the server's CPU and RAM far before we run out of bandwidth.

    One thing I'm thinking as a half-way between the pro-thumbnail and anti-thumbnail factions is to increase the size of the thumbnails. I can try this, but it also might just make both parties more upset about the situation.
  13. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

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    I capped my ADSL account in March.:(
  14. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    You can always go in the User CP options and opt to have it not show you images and avatars, that might help a bit.
  15. Squidbait

    Squidbait Recovering ALCO-holic

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    Peter,

    This may sound flip, but the maximum image size limits of the old gauge really made the hosted pics nothing more than glorified thumbnails. Lets face it, screen resolution is increasing all the time, and images that were plenty large when we all had 800x600 screens are pretty tiny now on 1600x1200 (or higher) screens.

    The majority of pics that are embedded in threads are (I beleive) hosted off-site for just that reason. Even so, although I have broadband access, I'm not thrilled with threads that load up tons of pics.

    I guess because the forums I first started using all have thumbnails, I don't see that as a problem. It is more of a convenience for me, and I suspect that if you can provide a reasonable sized thumbnails, most of the whinging you'll hear will disappear fairly quickly.

    As an example, here's a post from another forum powered by VBulletin with 5 thumbnails to larger images. Even with my 1900x1200
    screen, these are plenty large to get the gist of what the pic's about, and if I need to see more detail, I can click on it and it loads quickly. And, it loads to an image browser, so if I do want to look at all the images in a thread, I can step through them without scrolling through all the posts.

    All that said, I think you're doing a great job for providing this FREE (to us, that is!) service for us and your other interest groups.
  16. Squidbait

    Squidbait Recovering ALCO-holic

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    Oh, I will add that I recognize the forum I linked to has extensive corporate sponsorship, and I believe the owner actually does it full time... so I'm not expecting The Gauge to compete feature-for feature with it... I just wanted to provide what I thought was a good example of thumbnails put to good use.
  17. TruckLover

    TruckLover Mack CH613 & 53' Trailer

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    AWESOME job guys, it is getting better!!!
  18. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Guy Behind the Curtains

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    @Squidbait....

    The concept behind those limitations were to have tighter restrictions on images that were posted directly to the threads, to limit the damage to people viewing threads who are on dial up. And, to get people to upload bigger images in the gallery. The limits are subject to change, when we figure out where our 'sweet spot' is.

    I think RC Groups is doing exactly what I suggested in my earlier post. I can easily set the thumbnail size bigger. Thanks for providing the example for everyone to have a look. Anyone else like what they're doing?
  19. doctorwayne

    doctorwayne Active Member

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    As one of those guilty of posting pictures everywhere, (hey, I usually give you not only the picture, but the thousand words that it's supposed to be worth, too! );) it would be fine with me if you want to use thumbnails instead of full-size pictures in the threads. Personally, I find it a nuisance when viewing a thread with a lot of pictures, as it breaks the continuity when you're trying to tell a story, but it's no more than that, so let's keep our dial-uppers happy.
    I was pretty content with the old Gauge, but one change that I would've liked to have seen would be the ability to move my own photos around within the Gallery, both within an Album and between Albums. Probably too much to hope for. :(
    On the plus side, things seem to have calmed down a bit, and I'm sure things will get better as Peter fine tunes things over the coming days. :)

    Wayne
  20. Gary S.

    Gary S. Senior Member

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    As for pictures, I liked the way they were handled on the previous version of The Gauge. To me, that was perfect. Giving DoctorWayne the ability to post pics along with a storyline was really wonderful. And tutorials are better with the pics showing up in the threads without having to click on them. Dinky thumbnails at the bottom of the post just don't cut it for me.

    I also thought the 480x640 limitation was right on target.

    And, may I mention that at home, I am on dial-up. But I would rather sacrifice speed than sacrifice everyone's ability to show off their stuff!