ok...the scratchbuilt climax is on hold while I try to relocate the parts I was going to use for the trucks. In the mean time, I decided to start practicing building a trestle. I got some hardwood dowels from the local Chase Pitkin (cleaned them right out!) and stained them with Minwax Red Mahogany (#225). Cut to fit, touch up the trimmed ends with a Minwax Red Oak stain stick a voila! http://www.frontiernet.net/~blkbear/Trains/DCP_1251.JPG I didn't imbed the pic cause it is LARGE and I'm being nice to the dialup folks. To the right of the trestle bent is another I'm building out of a smaller balsa dowel stained with a Minwax Dark Walnut stain stick (those things are handy!). The bigger trestle is going to be for the On30 stuff. The top cap is roughly 1' square in O-scale, and the logs making up the legs are roughly 9" around. I'm using a jig from the Midwest Products Co. Canyon City Trestle kit. though the kit is HO scale, it works in On30 as well. if people are interested, I can take some piece-by-piece pics when I make the next one.