I bought a pack of woodland scenics tree armatures and some of the covering, I think I got clump folliage and Hob-e-tac. I did as the plans said, brused on the hobetac and then the greenage, all I did not do was spray it w/ scenic cement. after a day all the greenery started to fall of of the tree so I sprayed it w/ scenic cement, but that made the grren clumps that were stuck on very good at the beginning fall off:curse:. What am I doing wrong, or not doing. I watched the video at woodland scenics website, and no difference between how I did it.
Tree Troubles
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Here is an alternative way to make trees, and is fairly cheap and works well.
http://forum.zealot.com/t109129/
http://forum.zealot.com/t109129/
announce1WOW!!!!!! I just wanted tree help on commercial trees and now I cant wait to begin building my own. I have looked at the website quite a bit, BUT HOW DID I MISS THAT THREAD? Well anyway, great work on those trees. I have some bushes in the back yard that will work out perfectly, and the cost is awesome, especially for the results. Thanks a lot!:thumb:
I've never had the problem that you stated with Woodland Scenics trees. did you let the hobby tac set for a few minutes before applying the foam material? Also, I wash my tree armatures in warm water and detergent, use an old toothbrush to scrub them gently then dry them well before applying adhesive. This removes any mold release and gives a clean surface for the glue.
I have only a few of the WS trees, and did as you describe - Hob-e-tac and clump foliage. Did not do the Scenic Cement step. Over the course of about 3 years, I have lost maybe about 25% of the foliage, but still a reasonably respectable looking tree.
However, I prefer twisted wire trees or trees made from natural materials. Glad the tutorial helped!
Andrew
However, I prefer twisted wire trees or trees made from natural materials. Glad the tutorial helped!
Andrew
I had the same problem about five layouts ago. I repeated the procedure but used rubber contact cement instead of the Hobbi-tac. I still have those trees and will be putting them on my current layout as the scenery progresses.
I think I will do some experimenting this weekend with the trees, I also think I am going to look at a camera this weekend so I will soon be able to post pictures.:mrgreen:
Tried the trees, but I don't have the right tools for the job. Not a problem, I love a reason to take a trip to the hobby shop. sign1
Hobby shop! Woohoo! Keep us posted on how things go.
When I started 2 years ago, before I had a track plan and all that, my wife and I made about 250 trees because I thought I would need A TON of trees. But then my ideas morphed into an industrial type layout, so now I don't need that many trees. At least I think I don't. I have a couple areas that will have trees, but that's it. Right now, the trees are stuck in foam sheets and sitting on top of my bookshelves in my work room. I need to take a pic for you.
At times, making 250 trees was a pain, but in all, it was fun. The best thing is adding the foam, because that is where you see the finished project.
If you need a bunch of these, try to enlist some help, it really makes it go faster.
When I started 2 years ago, before I had a track plan and all that, my wife and I made about 250 trees because I thought I would need A TON of trees. But then my ideas morphed into an industrial type layout, so now I don't need that many trees. At least I think I don't. I have a couple areas that will have trees, but that's it. Right now, the trees are stuck in foam sheets and sitting on top of my bookshelves in my work room. I need to take a pic for you.
At times, making 250 trees was a pain, but in all, it was fun. The best thing is adding the foam, because that is where you see the finished project.
If you need a bunch of these, try to enlist some help, it really makes it go faster.
Do you have any ideas for modeling birch trees, they seem expensive to buy and that is what I would like to build to represent Missabe country.
Okay, that looks fairly simple. Find some branches from a species in your area that have the overall shape and branch structure of a real birch. If necessary, add more branches using the techniques shown in the tutorial. Add the branches to match photos of birch trees. Then paint the trunks a color to match the birch bark, and put little darker spots on them. Once dry, maybe spray with dullcote or some other sealer (satin or flat). Then do the poly-fiber thing, and choose ground foam colors that match birch. Probably would be good to use a mixture of colors just to get some variations.
Ok, that was a excellent tutorial on how to make trees without breaking the bank. I have to try it out... Thanks man...
i just found this thread and have yet another solution to supplement garys.i printed both out as both ways make VERY good looking trees,but i found these to be very easy to build,paint,coat and look FANTASTIC.these make some of the most realistic looking trees that i've seen.
Armorama :: Making Trees with Wire by Jan
there is also the method where you use a certain dead plant like "pepper" something.its in a MRR mag,and its probably on the net too.it has realistic "leaves" already on it!
one more thing to add is that for realistic leaves is to buy noch brand foliage,its actually leaflets and not just ground foam.hope this helps.--josh
Armorama :: Making Trees with Wire by Jan
there is also the method where you use a certain dead plant like "pepper" something.its in a MRR mag,and its probably on the net too.it has realistic "leaves" already on it!
one more thing to add is that for realistic leaves is to buy noch brand foliage,its actually leaflets and not just ground foam.hope this helps.--josh
Wow, that tree looks terrific. I like that method too. I've heard of doing that, but figured it would be difficult. Actually looks fairly simple.
If a person needed alot of trees, I am thinking that my method would work for all the background trees, and for the "display" trees at the front, they could be made from the wire.
If a person needed alot of trees, I am thinking that my method would work for all the background trees, and for the "display" trees at the front, they could be made from the wire.
your method is great for more background trees and filling up space.and even farther back could just be polyfiber balls for decidious and for conifers furnace filter material,but with some serious time,nimble fingers and plenty of band-aids,all those wire trees could be a reality sign1.--josh
