Tree gluing problem

Discussion in 'N / Z Scale Model Trains' started by acshrpe, Oct 16, 2002.

  1. acshrpe

    acshrpe Member

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    I have tried to glue folege on the trees but with no luck. I have tried Hobby-tac, elmers glue and even washing the trees before gluing, but with no luck. Anyone have another suggestion? My leaves are falling before their time!
  2. CarlFidy

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    Change the season of your layout???

    Sounds to me like changing season your modelling, to late fall would be the easy solution. Depending on where you are, with in a few weeks you should have plenty of prototypes to look at....:rolleyes: :D ;)
  3. acshrpe

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    That's just it. I don't want the season to be fall and I don't want the leaves falling before they are suppost to. Any idea how to keep the leaves on the trees, not on the floor as I am putting them on the land, or falling off the trees all over the place. Nothing I have tried so far has kept the leaves where they are to be - on the trees! Help!!!
  4. CarlFidy

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    Wish I could help you with the right adhesive, but my experience is still limited to armchair model railroading(a status to be changed very soon due to new job with better money). Just keep checking back, within a couple days the folks around here will provide you with a solution to your dilema. We'll both be a little wiser....;) :D
  5. Drew1125

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    Hi acshrp!
    Welcome to The Gauge!
    I'm not sure if this will help, or not, but I posted a thread here in the N/Z forum a couple of weeks ago called N Scale Trees...Cheap Fast & Easy...
    Wht type of materials are you using to make your trees?
  6. NICK C

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    Tacky Poly Vinyl Acetate!:p

    In my local hobbies and crafts shop i found just the thing to solve your problem!, it's called anita's Tacky Glue and is sold in hobbie and craft shops (mainly UK). I have found that it is best for sticking foiliage to tree armatures and will stick to virtually anything. It dries colourless and flexible.
    Details can be found at:-
    www.docrafts.co.uk :D :D :D :D

    Nick c

    :) :) :) :)
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    Tacky Poly Vinyl Acetate!


    In my local hobbies and crafts shop i found just the thing to solve your problem!, it's called anita's Tacky Glue and is sold in hobbie and craft shops (mainly UK). I have found that it is best for sticking foiliage to tree armatures and will stick to virtually anything. It dries colourless and flexible.
    Details can be found at:-
    www.docrafts.co.uk

    Nick c


    :) :) :) :) :) :)
  8. billk

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    If you don't want to go to the UK for "Anita's" Tacky Glue, try "Aileen's" (?) instead. You can get it at artsy/craftsy stores like Michael's. It comes in a brown squeeze bottle.
  9. NYCentral

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    I also use very cheap hairspray!! the cheapest unsented I can find seems to work the best. Spray it then apply leaves and I then spray it again.
  10. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    acshrpe,
    First, welcome to the gauge. The question was asked, what are you using for leaves, so I won't ask it again. I will make an assumption that you are using something like Woodland Scenic's tree kits.(you mentioned Hobby Tack).
    A while back I did demo on tree making, at the local library, as part of an ongoing layout construction demo. I was using the Woodland Scenic tree kits, and taught the following: Take the armatures and form them to represent the kind of tree you want.
    The "foliage" provided in the kit is rather too "lumpy" to work with, so I recommended that the "foliage" be torn into much smaller pieces.
    I sprayed the armature with 3M Super 77 spray adhesive, dumped some of the foliage in a bag, added the sprayed armature, and "shake-and-bake" out comes a tree, well..... after three or four sprays and shakes.
    Once the tree looked "full" enough, I sprayed a coat of Testors Dull Coat to insure that all the foliage would stay where it was( there was still some "fallout", but not bad). the tree was then stuck in a sheet of foam, to allow the dull coat to dry.
    The trees sat for a week before the next demo, where I planted them on the layout.
    I also showed one tree building method which used furnace filter being applied to the armature. once the Super 77 had set, the filter material was trimmed to a pleasing shape, and then was spray painted with Floquil roof brown. Almost immediately, it was sprayed with Testors Glosscoat, and Woodland Scenics "Coarse Turf" was sifted on. this was repeated about three or four times until the leaves were thick enough, and a filal spray of Glosscoat was added, to "fix" the leaves.
    The furnace filter technique was also used to make "leafless" trees, which had Woodland Scenics "Snow" sprinkled on instead of coarse turf. Makes a nice "winter" tree.
    Hope this helps,
    Pete
  11. davidstrains

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    Pete,

    Do you have any tutorials on the "Furnace filter" mothod? I need to make a bunch of trees.
  12. Tyson Rayles

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    David if these trees look good enough to suit you, go to the scratching and bashing forum page 4 and look for the thread "Eastern forests and steep ridges" . These are n-scale BTW.

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    Different pic lower angle. Once you get the hang of it, you can make 50-70 per hour.

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    Tyson,

    That is excellent. It looks almost real. Is that a tobacco barn and crop in a W. Va or KY farm? I will spend a lot of time looking at you work and trying to do as well.

    Thanks.
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    Another Tree Gluing Problem

    Hey Pete, May I impose on you for some advice?:D

    A couple of years ago I got on a "bender" of making Aspen trees and was using that 3M Super 77 Spray to attach paper punches to the tree armature to make leaves.

    Wondering if you ever ran into this problem with it......It has never dried or set:eek: To this day its still tacky and I dare not let the trees touch each other or they will stick together.:eek: :D

    Any thoughts??? Maybe I got a bad can of the stuff:eek: :confused:

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  16. Tyson Rayles

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    David it is a tobacco farm and barn located in S.W. North Carolina, although it could just as easily be W.Va., Tenn, etc. My R.R. is based on the old Murphy Branch of the Southern. Thanks for the kind words. :)
  17. Jim de Bree

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    Hobby-tac question

    Last night I started making a large number of Woodland Scenics Pine trees, using Hobby-Tac as the adhesive. How do you clean this stuff off of your hands? Is there some sort of solvent? The instructions on the bottle don't have any warnings or clean up suggestions.:confused: :confused: :confused:
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    Re: Hobby-tac question

    Sandpaper? :D :D :D :D
    Jim - I made some trees on Tuesday night. Still have some Hobby-Tac on my hands. I have not found anything to remove it.
    Oh - I hate making tree's.

    Marty
  19. Tyson Rayles

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    Jim, Marty try WD-40
  20. Jim de Bree

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    Thanks Tyson

    thanks for the tip. Thank God that I am modelling the western partof the country. If I were modelling the east and had to make a gazillion trees, I'd go nuts. It certainly is not as easy as Woodland Scenics would have you believe. However, the end product does look pretty good.