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Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by toptrain1, Oct 3, 2008.
That's a fine looking fleet! Do you have an ice house on your line somewhere?
Hey Guy's I have been enjoying your collection of Reefers. I have a few but nothing as nice as what I have seen. I will post some pic's of what I have soon. I saw this on ebay & thought you might be interested, so check it out.
Did these reefers actually carry the product that was represented on the Billboard or was it just advertising like on rural barns ?
* At times they didin't. You were alowed to advertise wherever you paid to put your advertisement, if it was deamed appropreate by the community the add was placed in. Advertiseing on the railroads was different it seams. I know if you own the car you can paint you companys name on it.
* This is what happens when the very wealthly squable. My lawyer will beat your lawyer in court.
40' wood Reefer Walters
Walters 40' reefers
Wesscott and Winks Dairy Products
Worthington Creamery and Produce Co.
Perhaps an interesting aside associated with the preceeding post is that, upon the first appearance of a Wescott & Winks reefer in HO many many moons ago and for a long time thereafter, a great many model railroaders mistakenly believed that the "Wescott" in the car's lettering scheme was meant as a mispelled reference to, or in homage of, Linn Westcott, famed model railroading guru and longtime editor of Model Railroader Magazine.
The WWDX reporting marks in fact do corresponded to the real Wescott & Winks Dairy Products company.
RE : Westcott and Winks
What is nice about this dairy is that their are different car printing types.
Are those last 3 Westcott & Winks cars still available? If so where could I find these. I am really enjoying the collection of cars that have been posted.Thanks & have a good Memorial Day.
RE Westcott & Winks
The three W&W reefers are Athearn cars I painted and lettered using decals. I used a Microscale sets. In the two their was enough for seven cars.
87-167 Ice reefers, Wescott and Winks, Land O' Lakes, White Rock.
87-174 Old Time Billboard reefers, Westcott and Winks,
Nice work on the paint and lettering, Frank. :thumb:
Thanks for the info Frank. You have done a fantastic job on those. I did find some of the W&W cars by Branchline,Atlas & Athearn on some Modeling Websites. I like your idea of building them yourself. I did find the decals from Microscale & will be placing a large order. Do you use prorotype colors for your cars? & also what brand if any of solvaset & dulcote do you use. I will be posting some pics of my Maple Valley Logging & Millwork project soon & you can see the problem I'm having with decals. I made my own Logo & Sign but did not like the dullcote, it actually made it shine more. Thanks for the help & once again very nice job & a very fine collection.
RE Westcott & Winks
THe W&W reefers should have been white and brown. I used a light gray. I had seen gray used on other reefers and tried it.
I have seen the white but I like the gray better also. Are you using undecorated cars? I haven't found any UD cars that I like yet. I might just go ahead & get some with very little graphics, strip, paint & detail them.
Hey Frank just found this link & thought you might could use for some reference. They are large scale but the colors are nice.
Jim I used the athearn because you don't have to mask off anything, so you can do them faster. The roof and ends are one part so you just paint it one color. The sides and bottom are the other main part and you paint the sides the other color.
Carstens Refrigerator Line
This group seems to have a huge interest in billboard reefers. I am looking for information on the Carstens 34 foot reefer, it had brown sides, an off set door on the side and lettering that said "White Snow Shortening". Can any one help me?
RE Carstens Refrigerator Line
I'm not farmillyar with the Carstens line of cars. Had you checked out
http://www.greatdecals.com then look at Art griffin. Their is alot there.
Also Clover House for rubb-ons.
Carstens Refrigerator Line
Frank, thanks for the reply. Funny you mention Clover House 'cause that's were I got the idea, saw it in his catalog. I've purchased many HO scale rub off's from Clover House to make many of my cars but there is some information lacking to complete a car. What I was wanting to know was the postion of the ice hatches. With the off set door they could be placed other than the usual position at the ends. The Colorado & Midland ( Hanrahan ) reefer is a good example of hatches in a different position. Maybe somebody will point me in the right direction. John
Quite the opposite.
The wood cars had a higher insulation rating than the steel cars. Wooden cars did require higher maintenance though.
In 1939, the CNR developed overhead ice bunker cars similar to the modified Athearn car shown below. In addition to eight ice hatches, these cars had extra insulation and a "Liquidometer" (the black and white gadget near the door) to help monitor the temperature of the cargo. To increase car utilisation, they were also equipped with underslung charcoal heaters, to prevent freezing of the cargo during winter.
Hardly a billboard car , but an important chapter in the development of refrigerated transport. PFE also built some similar cars.