Swiss Krokodyl

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  1. absnut

    absnut Member

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    I have an Arnold Swiss Crocodile loco and need a couple questions answered:

    On the model, is there a way to put the pantographs down and have them stay down? (as with the Rivarossi GG1)

    On the prototype, did they operate with one pantograph up or both up or either one or both?

    Thanks,

    Dick
  2. TrainClown

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    What? No pic? Where's the pic? Ain't ya gots no pic? I needs me a pic, please! :D

    TrainClown ;)
  3. absnut

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    OK, TC...one pic coming up! :thumb:

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  4. shaygetz

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    On the GG1, standard procedure was to run one up, one down. In icy conditions, both were put up with the idea that the first one acted as an icebreaker for the second to help maintain better contact with the catenary.

    Beautiful loco, one that I've longed for over the years asnd hope to eventually run with my GG1s. :thumb:
  5. TrainClown

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    Is that ever COOL! Now I know why they call it a Crocodile. If I had one, I couldn't resist painting eyes and a big toothy grin on the side.

    Actually it looks like a crocodile wearing a hat. :D

    TrainClown ;)
  6. sschaer

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    dick...

    check inside the pantographs. there should be small latches catching the upper part of the pantos. maybe you need to bend these latches a bit



    when i was a kid i saw these crocodiles on heavy gravel trains. impressive sight.
  7. absnut

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    Thanks, Sandro... I was hoping there might be small tabs/hooks like on the RR GG-1 but, I couldn't see any. I'll get out my magnifyer and check again! :thumb:

    Dick
  8. engineshop

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    I went through all my books with SBB locomotives and I did not find any pictures with a Krokodil with both pantographs engaged even the winter pictures. It also seems that that before the 60s the front pantograph was mostly used while more modern Swiss engines after that had the back one engaged even the engines with the old Krokodil style pantograph. Interestingly, when running two Krokodil in consist, the first one had the front pantograph up while the second unit used the rear one.
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    Hi Dick!

    Beautiful croc, I have the minitrix one and the springs on the panto's hold them down without clips if needed. Most of the pictures I've seen have them running with just one panto raised.

    Geez, how can you resist such a lovely locomotive eh? :)

    Graham
  10. absnut

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    Hey Grum,

    It is a beautiful beast and has no real purpose on a New England RR but..... I always wanted one and got the chance! Finally found the "hooks" (with strong magnifier!) to hold the pantographs down..... thanks to all who responded to my call for help! :wave:

    Dick
  11. shaygetz

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    I dunno 'bout that...I ever get one, I'll paint it in the 1st generation Amtrak "Bloody nose" scheme...or maybe Auto-train purple, white and red... :thumb:
  12. absnut

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    Bob,

    A blue, white, and black B&M McGinnis scheme just might not look bad, at that! LOL :thumb:

    Dick
  13. Kashiwazaki

    Kashiwazaki KASHIWAZAKI SENA FAN!!

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    LINK DOESN'T WORK!! :curse:
    Can you send me a proper AND permanent photo, please?? :wave:
    Thanks!
  14. Kashiwazaki

    Kashiwazaki KASHIWAZAKI SENA FAN!!

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    Does anyone know if there's another model of a bi-level train in use at Switzerland? I'm currently living in Switzerland, but I'm a newbie, there!
    Thanks!
  15. Trainiac77

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    Still can't see the picture, only a red X
  16. Mountain Man

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    And I'm not even getting a red X...

    Here:


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