Su-85 1:25 by Answer build

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  1. Clashster

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    Well, I have been working on this for a few days and taking pictures along the way. It seems to be coming together fairly well, so I decided to start a thread! (my last thread ground to a halt when I got to the canopy... we had a few words and the darn plane is sitting on a shelf until my skills catch up to my ambition!) Anyway, so far I have really enjoyed this model... There are very few diagrams and the instructions are in Polish, so much of it has been "follow the numbers". Fortunately, I somehow learned to look over the parts and visulize the construction before I cut. So far, there is only one part that I have no idea where it goes! On to the pics:

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    The obligitory frames laid out shot:
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    and put together...
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    BTW, I actually figured out some construction details from the cover painting...
    Chris

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    Looks like a fairly simple model of the Su-85. I note there's no attempt to model
    the Christie suspension.

    The housings on the back of the hull are for the transmission - the T-34 design was rear drive. What you identified as the idler is the drive wheel. The track was driven by the guide plates on the track inserting into the slots between the drive bars.

    This link http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/galleries/SP_guns/SU_100_bp.htm
    is a bunch of drawings of the Su-100 (very simlar to the Su-85) - might help with some of the detail.

    How is the fit so far? - there's been quite a lot of criticism of Answer plane models in this forum - are their
    armour models the same?

    Regards,

    Charlie
  5. Clashster

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    Whoops, my bad.... this seems to be a fairly simple model overall (a lot of cutting, but nothing too difficult) Thanks for the link - I'm not knowledgiable at all about armor, I just like the way it looks and models... Being my first armor model, I don't think I'll get too crazy...
  6. Fishcarver

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    Looks good so far!

    I need to study those road wheels for my next build!

    Jim
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    I'm not an armor guy, but this one seems to be a good intro. Looking forward for your thread.
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    The grey areas on the drive wheels should be cut out. Here's what the drive wheel looks like on a T-34 (the Su-85 is the same but I couldn't find an image of the drive wheel). I think the holes were intended to insure that mud didn't build up in the drive wheel stopping the guide plates engaging.

    Regards,

    Charlie

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  9. josve

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    Nice work Chris!!
    Looking forward to the rest of your build!
  10. GT5500

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    I can highly recommend Nobi's cromwell as first armour model, although the instructions are a bit scarce it is quite easy to work out and is a good compromise between simplicity and detail. Sorry for the off topic there!
  11. cgutzmer

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    Cool, a tank build! Looing great so far :)
    Chris
  12. Clashster

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    Well, Chris, someone has to carry the torch since Johnny has become a flyboy! :grin:
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    Some more progress, but not too much. They tell me I have to go to work. :sad:

    Here is a look from the side...

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    Working on the road wheels - this has taken a lot longer than I thought. And this is only one! Nine more to go!
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    Of course, needed something else to do besides wheels, so did a little work on the fiddley bits on the front:

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    So far this model has gone together well. No real fit issues that weren't self inflicted. The only thing that I think is a problem that wasn't me is the axles for the road wheels aren't long enough. Not a big issue, as I can roll a longer one and paint it (it won't be seen behind the wheel :grin: ). Other than that, I have enjoyed this and think it goes together well. Off to cut some more!:wink:

    Chris

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  14. Fishcarver

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    Hang in there!

    Chris: You are doing a fine job with this buld! Keep it up!!

    Jim
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    Well flyboy......I'm not sure if thats the right word for it :)
    Right now I'm building the PAK,the Greif and the Beaufighter so I think that I cover some genres in modelbuilding at the time LOL

    I have a lot of new projects coming up, and several of them have tracks!
    And some have wings :)
    I promise I stay clear of ships!!

    And I have to say you are doing a great job on the SU Chris!!
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    Made some progress... These road wheels are taking all my time! But these are some pics of the front end. Here I think is an issue with the kit. The fit does not seem to be right (the cut in the interior bulk head does not line up with the cut in the skin). Much of this could be my error, but in this somewhat difficult construction, there are no diagrams to follow. The only way I was able to figure it out was from the main drawing of the tank (which was not too helpful to see if I really got it right). I am not really happy with how it turned out, but I must move along!
    Front view:
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    doesn't look too bad. Side view:
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    You can see the large gap at the top that concerned me. I could not get it to fit around the internal frames without serious bunching elsewhere.
    Rear shot:
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    After a bunch of dry fitting, I figured that perhaps this was how it was supposed to go, and when you put the next part on top, it would somehow fit properly... That will be in the next post!:grin:
    Still, I am enjoying this kit. It does require a lot of contemplating of the drawings, but it is helping improve my modeling skills! :roll:

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    Here are the pictures that kind of pull the front all together. Obviously, I made some kind of error, but overall it is not too bad! :grin:

    Front view, doesn't look too bad:
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    Side view. You can see the problem of the paper bunching up on the bottom. I should have trimmed the round part so it didn't get stuck on the internal structure. If there had been better drawings of this, I may have realized it before it was glued...
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    Top view. Again, doesn't look too bad!
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    Well, I am off work today and it is cold for Florida, so perhaps I will get a lot done today!

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  18. Fishcarver

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    Dry fit, Dry fit, Dry fit...

    ..I guess. Your technique is finer than mine, which is: bash it now, paint it later. Looking good overall, though!!

    I can't wait until you get to the TRACKS!

    Hang in there!
    Jim
  19. charliec

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    It looks to me as if the Answer design isn't good in this area. The Su-85 and Su-100 used a mantlet which was a roughly spherical section - the cover on the top of the mantlet was hinged - I think the idea was to stop rain running into the gun. (hope my image attach works..)

    The white stripes on the hull were aircraft identification markings - they were only used at the end of WW2. Similar idea to the stars on the top of US and British tanks in Europe.

    Regards,

    Charlie

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  20. Clashster

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    Thanks for the picture, Charlie! I think you are right - the kit is not too faithful to the original. Still, if they had some drawings of the construction, their interpretation of this area would have made the build go much smoother.

    Chris