Storm Talon

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  1. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Attack Support Chopper

    I built one as a prototype and it came out better than I though. The second one is coming along better than the first one but those photos will be coming up soon


    Thanks for your encouragement and here I will start the third conversion.


    I have been having some problems with my camera in that it keeps shutting off and killing the batteries too fast. I hope that it will hold out for this build, or I will have to revert to my old 3 megapixel camera. The photos of the cockpit build start up, for some reason, disappeared so I will have to start from the built tub forward. In one of the photos, you will see one of he carved Space marine and the last photo is the start of the building of the figure. Enjoy and see you all soon with more updates.

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  2. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Attack Support Chopper

    Since I cannot proceed until the figures are done, here is my attempt at making the Space Marines out of paper. The dremel comes in handy for this part of the carving process. As usual, the size of the picture pixels determine the sequence, so they are numbered because of this discrepancy. Enjoy and see you all next posting.

    I have a commission to do a wooden sailing ship. I have three choices, A Virginia intercoastal smuggler Swift boat, A French Galeon Lejon or the San Salvador. I will make some parts from paper but over all, it will be about 80% wood. I have to make it by Thanksgiving, which will make it a rush project. This means that the Attack Heli may be a slow build, maybe.:wave::wave::wave:

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  3. jarobinson

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    How did you even think of this stuff??? I wish I had your imagination!
  4. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Attack Support Chopper

    I think that I missed my calling, I believe I was supposed to be at the Toy shop, North Pole, working for good old St Nick. Imagination is a good thing to have if you wish to design or re-fit models. This all comes from a past of scratch building and making dioramas with plastic models and helping set up railroad landscaping for HO scale.


    On with the updates in the making of the Space Marine. Follow the number sequence. Again, the sequence is off due to the image size.

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  5. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Attack Support Chopper

    The figures are finished and now I can dedicate the rest of the build to the Helicopter version. The troop compartment is coming along nicely and after scrutinizing more closely, it looks like a Space Marine stretch Limousine.

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    More excellent tips, like your method of motor tool and sandpaper shaping. I have used it myself on more than one occasion and media type and it works great. It is the modelers miniature lathe/drill press/machining tool.

    Good luck with your commission, making money is a whole lot more important so we all understand if things don't get in as often for the moment.;)
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Attack Support Chopper

    Thanks for the comments. The dremel is a necessary tool for all hobbyist. As you mentioned, it is very versatile. On my wooden ships, I use it extremely for the belaying pins made from toothpicks.

    As for that commission, I have all the items needed to start building it. I will probably start it this Monday and work on it while watching the election results on the FOX News.

    In the meantime, here are some more photo updates of the model. It almost looks like a modified version of the Blackhawk except for the cockpit.

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  8. silveroxide

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    Attack Support Chopper

    And the build continues with more updates on the 40K Marine Helicopter.

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  9. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

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    The space marines look FANTASTIC!!!
    If you had not shown that (and how) you made then, I (and most everyone else) would not have believed that you had made them.
    The troop transport is coming together nicely as well.
  10. Zathros

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    I would like to break these up in some manner. The threads are merging one into another and it is difficult to see that there are three models inhere. Give me some suggestions before I act. Send me a P.M. Thanks. :)
  11. silveroxide

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    Attack Support Chopper

    I just decided to make the figures the way I used to when I scratch built in styrene, pre-paper days. Those figures take a lot of time and effort in the making. It would have been easier to do like I did for the Walker and took one from the GW and cut him up for the pose.

    I sent you a PM and I would like to keep them in the same thread but as you mentioned, give a title to explain the works included in the thread. "Storm Talon and 4 conversions" or "Storm Talon, Manned Walker, Helicopter and Starfighter." This would be much easier,than trying to break up the sequence.

    Maybe the members could put some input as to the lay out.


    Her are some more photo updates of the build

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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Attack Support Chopper

    Continuing with the Marine Chopper. It is coming along better than I expected. Again as usual, the site sequence is off so follow the numerical photo sequence.

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  13. Zathros

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    This looks so freaking cool! I love the troops seats. I can't wait to see how it looks when it's done! :)
  14. silveroxide

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    Attack Support Chopper

    Thanks Zathros, I did not make the seat belts and that is another option that can be done if it was done as a troop carrier, but this version will be a weapons platform.


    If this was an imperial guard chopper, The cabin would have been a two side by side seater instead of piggy back. The cabin is big enough for two guardsmen. I will do the doors to see how it would look with them but I will not use them in the final project due to the weapons update which will need the doors open.

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    Nice looking build so far...
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Micah, There is still a bit more to come but it is looking real good and hopefully with the weapons upgrades, mean and nasty.


    So the work continues with more updates on the Chopper.

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  17. Zathros

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    Blades are too short from a physics point of view. To lift such a load would require that they spin rather fast and would reach supersonic very quickly. Now, if that is how it looks in the WarHammer40K, then so be it. I only say this because after working for Sikorsky for 10 yeas, I tell you that looks like a real viable helicopter. I love it!! :)
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    Yes I know, But I have seen some medevac choppers for city/urban use that very short blades but by increasing the blades to 5, they are able achieve lift. I my case, if I had done away with the backseater and moved the engine hump forward, The blades would have been viable. I f I had made them longer, they would have extended past the tail section and interfered with the rear blade assembly. I used artistic license and shortened them. Anyways, Helicopters and c-119s like bees are not supposed to fly, they just beat the air and gravity into submission:twisted:
  19. Zathros

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    Oh yeah, they fly for a very good reason. I don't like to go into stuff like this too much because I get called a know it all. The five bladed rotors are to generate more lift, that's for certain. That was why we upgraded all (well most) of the Sea Kings to the 5 blade elastomeric hub and added an extra engine. A CH53E with a 79 ft. rotor diameter will reach near supersonic at the wing tips doing 373 r.p.m.. There is not lift at this point and that is why craft like the Carver Copter with a slowed rotary wing are being eyeballed.In translational flight, the center of lift on a counter clockwise rotating rotary wing moves towards the front and right of the aircraft. This is because the wing is advancing into the on coming air while the other blade is retreating. The tail rotors main job is to prevent the helicopter from corkscrewing and thus terminating fight in an unwanted manner. Now, if you look at the trailing edge of each wing, and you could still do this to our model, it looks like a long sideways "S" shape. This is because as you approach the center of rotation the speed relative to the air slows, so as the blade makes it's way inwards towards the main shaft from the tip, the trailing edge starts to drop, changing the angle of incidence of the wing cutting more steeply into the wind and securing lift at all speeds, while the leading edge looks pretty much the same. this is very pronounced on Blackhawk helicopters.

    If you have a good eye, and know what you are looking for, you can see it quite clearly in this picture.

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    Attack Support Chopper

    Here are some more updates on the 40K chopper. Postings may be sporadic from here on. I will be working on the Virginia Swift boat soon. The model is taking shape and the weapons are not done yet. Still considering the weapons components for it. Enjoy and see you all soon with more updates.

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