Storm Talon

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  1. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Well the chariot is done and I am off on another project. This time it is the Storm Talon. The download can be found here in the downloads. It is made by newobmij and further modified slightly by terrinecold. So far the model is well made and I am starting with the engine pods first. There will be some further modifications by me which will give the model some strength and a few more details. So here are the first photos of the build. Enjoy and see you all next posting.

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  2. Zathros

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    Now this should be interesting. Terrinecold did wonders with this already fine model, this will surely be fun to watch! :)
  3. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    This model so far is build friendly. It also has the possibility for further enhancements. There are some tricks to the trade that you have think about in this build. Case in point, is the cowling for the nacelles. It has a very narrow strip to hold it in place. See the photos and you will see how to overcome this shortcoming. Enjoy and see you all the next posting.

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  4. terrinecold

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    Great, as you said the model is well done and very build friendly which is what I enjoy with those models by Newobmij that I have tried. The consequence is that by design many of the details are printed. I enjoyed trying to make some of them more realistic and I am glad to see that not only are you doing the same but also documenting the process.
    I am also curious as to whether you intended to separate the compressor blades the way I did it on my blood raven stormtalon?
    I do intend to make a third one with a different coloring, I'll definitely use your ideas (I like the indented instruments, and I see that your way of doing the vents for the engine looks better than mine.
  5. ARMORMAN

    ARMORMAN FOUNDATION CORNERSTONE

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    Love your builds, man. Missed you. Glad your back safe.
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    It was your build that inspired me to build it as well. When I saw the Storm Talon, I looked at the model and loved the make up. It lend itself to be scratch built and I was digging up reference material to scratch build one, and then Newobmij made it. His plans are 100% better than mine would have been and much simpler. All I can do, is embellish an already great model. Thanks to your talents I will try to emulate your build.

    I got back in April and have been rather busy with my homestead. This month I turn 62 and I believe that it is time to hang up my hat and enjoy life. Keep the models coming and good job on your Venom.




    Here is the next batch of photos on the build. The cowling portion of the engine nacelle had lines on them that threw of the visual, so I repainted them by hand using a cadmium yellow. To maintain the correct circle aspect of the engine nacelle, I made an inner ring support for the cowling. A smaller diameter of the fan diagram was used and a thin strip of black card stock was used. The black card stock eliminated the need for painting. Now for the fan cone, I hate using those pesky tabs and re-did the cone by using a paper stick and wrapping a thin strip of paper around the the tip. With my dremmel, I sanded the cone to shape. If you use the drill. be sure to insert it in flush with the collar. If it sticks too far out, it will break apart, and do use low speed as well. Enjoy and see you all soon with more on the Talon.:wave:

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  7. lehcyfer

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    Interesting patents :)
  8. terrinecold

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    nice way to do the cone. I agree with you about the tabs, I never did airplanes so those were my first try and I failed lamentably so what I did was roll a cone of paper ( a bit like a cylinder) which is not the right shape but didn't look too bad. I'll try this way (I did buy a dremmel a few month ago and haven't found much use for it yet)
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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    I like to share some of my techniques so that others can make better models.
    By the way, Lehcyfer, Did you ever finish that Star Treck Danube class runabaout, Rubicon?


    I use my dremel extensively in many of my works. Later on in the build, The missile pods will be drilled out and replaced with missiles instead of just the facsimile drawn on paper style. For cones, I also make use of the dremel to make propeller nose too. Fine sand paper and gentle pressure on the paper sticks or they will unravel on you. Glad you like the idea and try it out, you may be surprise with the results.
  10. Zathros

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    Wow, it's like all the master modelers are on at the same time today! I would moisten my fingers and spin two part epoxy (already kneaded together) with a bamboo skewer mounted in an electric drill and form the spinner with my fingers. Nice thing about the epoxy is you can cut it with an X-acto blade and make the cut outs for the props.

    When I used to fly, Winter time was particularly dangerous as sometimes these spinners filled with ice and make for a really bumpy start, which would result in the prop ripping itself off. I had to defrost more than I can remember to make sure there was no moisture for those students and instructors that wanted the plane "ready to go". I always thought they were missing something, not learning how to properly inspect the plane they were flying!

    See, you model is so detailed, I star drifting. On the other hand, knowing how the "real" things are made and should look makes me appreciate the work you guys do. :)
  11. lehcyfer

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    No I didn't, it still sits in a box - Raven Blaack have seen it and pushed me a little - one day I'll finish it :)
  12. silveroxide

    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Well Zatrhos, I am not really sure how to answer your input, except for thanks for the comment.


    Well Do not sit too long, apathy sets in and a person has a tendency to forget. In my case, I have still to finish my dropship, of which I will have to get back to someday.

    Here is the next batch of photos and the result of the carved intake cone. For the exhaust, I did the retainer ring and used the socket to help in the installation. The louvers are laminated on top of each other and the first base piece is curved to fit on the exhaust. Enjoy and see you all next posting.

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  13. terrinecold

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    Ah a different take on the louvers compared to mine.
    Regarding the inside of the nozzle, I am also quite happy with the look I got painting "flames"
    I really like the look of your vents.
    Finally can you tell me what "greebles" means, I am french and my english doesn't extends to this level of vocabulary
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    ARMORMAN FOUNDATION CORNERSTONE

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    greeblies and nernies are terms for the detailing you see on models that may or may not have a purpose, but makes it look cool. Like all the detailing on a Star Wars Y-Wing fuselage or the Millennium Falcon. Here's a pic:

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    clear thanks for the explanation
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    I forgot to put a raised ring near the end of the exhaust like on the GW model but I am pleased how the engine pylon came out but that is a little further up the line. The hinges are not the same as the GW model, which are indented. I took some liberty with that part. I decided to start with the engine pylons, because when I get to the fuselage, I will do a full re-make of the interior and add some more stuff to it. I will go to town with that portion of the build.

    Thanks Armorman for explaining the knick-nacks, nerdies and greebles. Eventually we will teach our French friend some of the localism and jargon of the American version of English.

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  17. Zathros

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    I think you mean you English does not devolve into this level of idiomatic expression! They are terms I have only heard in this hobby, and have used often. They certainly identify someone who is into this Hobby.

    Also, I really like the turbines on your model, the methodology of yours silveroxides, show how personalized this hobby can be, and how individual preferences create models that are the same, but different, vive la différence! :)

    @silveroxide, what it is holmes, those raised panels are the bomb! Man, you are trippin' me out. Those nacelles are happenin', and the greeblin' is paper model bling! :mrgreen:




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    silveroxide Well-Known Member

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    Zathros, you know me... I have a tendency to take something simple and well made, then go all out to make it difficult. So far I have not even reached the fuselage stage and the externals are somewhat getting out of hand with all the detailing. But this procedure will help others to build up a better model and teach them how to enhance the model. All of this, is from my olden days of scratch building out of styrene before I found paper. The procedures are almost the same. I am also posting this thread on other sites as well, Dakkadakka and Resin Illuminati. Still up on the drawing board, is this same Talon in a manned walker version.

    Using the reference from the GW model I added a few more greebles and raised surfaces.

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  19. Zathros

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    If you ignite these and they work, then I think I'll drop right there and then! :)
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    Grrr, I hate terrinecold and I hate you!!!
    why do you have so many time to build such beautiful models?
    Apart of jokes, your level of detailing is very high, I wonder how much time do you spend to build a model.
    I have very little time and the tendency to start more than 3 project at one time (and the tendency to leave everething unfinished)... I'll watch out this tread, so can I ask you to put a little "time spent inidcator" :) for each part?