Details of the building of the USS Enterprise can be found in "The Enterprise Incident" thread. The only real change here is the swapping of blu tac for 2mm bicone red beads with 0.25mm fibre optic filament threaded through the nacelles:- I've used Glen Jupp's pattern for the USS Defiant with a green overlay put in place using a program called ImageJ:- Instead of using a disc of thick card to build the saucer, I've cut a thin strip of green card and glued it around the circumference. This ensures that there is sufficient internal space for a green LED which will hopefully penetrate the card and give a nice glow. For this one I used pale green beads for the bussard collectors and I've threaded filaments through them too. The almost finished Defiant looks like this:- The red wiring will be painted black, as will the fibre optics if they start glowing green outside the nacelles. If you thought that my previous efforts were small wait till ya get a load of this! The Tholian webspinners have a crew of teeny, toty wee Tholians the size of atoms - lol. I make that 4mm long. There's still a bit of touching up to do around the edges and then I'll start them spinning. It'll just be gold thread this time as I can't see any way of building up fibre optics that wouldn't be totally nightmarish!