SPACE: 1999 MARK IX HAWK

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  1. bgt01

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    It’s only been a few years since I ventured into the world of Space: 1999. I was too young to catch it in first run and it wasn’t in syndication where I lived. The only exposure I had to the show was through toy and model ads and the rare sci-fi publication. Thanks to the Internet, I was finally able to give the show a look and on the whole I’ve found it very entertaining. The “science” part is almost pure hogwash, but the look and feel of the show is very appealing and the model work is first-rate. To me, the Eagles and other earth technology seems very “real world” possible, more so than Star Trek. That includes the Hawk spacecraft seen only once in the first season episode “War Games.” It’s a smaller, faster, more heavily-armed craft than the Eagle.

    So I decided to take a break from Trek and build myself a Hawk. The only model I know of is JayBats and it’s been on my computer for a couple of years. I printed out the files and started building. As usual, I started looking for ways to make it more screen accurate. While this is a nice, simple model as-is, it is way off on detail and parts structure. So I gathered up a bunch of pics of the studio model (they made a 5”, 16” and 33” version) and got to changing. As usual, I’ve turned it into a quest to the point that I have scrapped the first model and started over.:facepalm: The new model is a combination of JayBats structure, new art and some scratch building. The original screen model Hawks were hastily built models with a lot of details drawn and painted freehand. The 3 versions differ greatly in detail. I have decided to do as “clean” a version as I can of the 33” model with some of my own detail preferences here and there. Let’s see if I can pull this off without going crazy!:wacky:

    As usual, all parts are scored and edge colored as needed. However, this is the first model where I’ll be using watercolor pencils to edge color instead of markers. I hope to avoid some of the massive edge bleeding I’ve had in the past. I’m also getting rid of the fold lines during the digital repaint stage. For this build I’m including reference pics and comparison pics of old parts to new parts to avoid spelling out every detail change. I will make note of important changes/challenges as they come up.

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    TARGETING SENSORS

    I started with the targeting sensors because they are the simplest part. They are simple box shapes. I cut the tab off the long side and glued a new one made from 20 lb. printer paper from the back for a butt-fit seam. I kept the small tabs at the front and rear, as I do with most parts, because they were too small and fiddly to make new ones. TARGETING SENSORS_1.jpg TARGETING SENSORS_2.jpg TARGETING SENSORS_3.jpg a1.JPG a2.JPG
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  3. Rhaven Blaack

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    I remember watching this program as a kid (and loving every episode).
    I have always liked the Hawk wondered why no one has made a detailed model of it (as there is a detailed version of the Eagle).
    Once you are finished, is this going to be a template that you are looking at releasing?
    I am looking forward to seeing how this project will turn out. Needless to say, I will be following this thread.
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    Great start! I'll be watching! :)
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    Thanks guys. @Rhaven Blaack This is the biggest seat-of-the-pants model I've tried yet. A lot of the modifications and parts I'm making or trying to make I'm doing freehand so there are no templates being used, except for the actual repaint to JayBats file. So I don't see a shareable file coming out of this. I don't use the design programs you guys do, but if what I make is any good and JayBats said it was OK I'd gladly turn over what I had to someone to try and make something out of it. When I get to the end let me know what you think and we'll see if there's anything to work with.;)
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    Great idea. Sorry for the OT but I'm wondering, is there a model of the Eagle Laser Tank out there?
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    None in paper that I know of @Revell-Fan . Just plastic and resin is all I see on the 'net. It'd be a great project for someone who's made tank-like vehicles already ;););)
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    What you can do, is make duplicate drawings of the parts. Scan them into your computer. Then use either CorelDraw or MSPaint to clean up the hand drawn lines and even everything out. Once you have done that, you have a usable template. Not only that, but there are a few free design programs that you can use as well (like Sketchup, Gimp, Blender, and Inkscape, to name a few) for designing.
    I hope that this will help you out.
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    Thanks @Rhaven Blaack . Actually, "freehand" was probably the wrong word. Almost all my work is already in the computer. I work in printing so all my manipulation is in either Photoshop, Illustrator and/or InDesign. The "freehand" stuff is where I need things to meet up on parts that are unfolded (the orange and white sections of paint). I'm trying to repaint some of the unfolded parts and that's hit and miss. Or, things like the tubing where I'm going to try and use other material (toothpicks, lollipop sticks, etc) instead of rolled paper. When it's done maybe you can tell me if it's worth sharing? More importantly, I don't know how to connect with JayBats to get his permission to repost this if I do, so that might make the whole template thing moot.
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    INDEED! :)
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    Don't worry too much about it yet. You have just started. Take one step at a time. I suggest you document any step you make like you have already done in post #2, even if it is a failure. That way you would provide a blueprint for possible followers and point out what works and what doesn't. Then we'll see. :)
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    COMMAND MODULE

    The command module and all the remaining parts got massive repaints. The original Hawks were built with tons of Airfix model bits and greeblies so they had a lot of detail. And, there was a lot of last-minute painting when it was decided the Hawk looked too much like the Eagle on screen (originally the Hawks were all white).

    To start, I added recessed yellow view ports. The original model had no cockpit so you didn’t have to see inside. The areas around the viewports were painted white on the Hawks to contrast the black on the Eagles. After filming, these areas were painted back to black, but white is screen correct. I used a super light gray to give it some definition. I also added my version of the slotted pieces of metal that run along the bottom edge of the viewport area. It’s hard to see on the pics, but it’s there.

    The orange paint scheme was off at the rear, so I tried my best to correct it but since I couldn’t quite make it work on the unfolded part.:mad: You can see what I was going for in the reference pic. I added all the various panel lines, raised details and greeblie parts I could determine as close to original position and size as possible. To make life a little easier, I printed all my newly made parts and raised areas on separate sheets.

    For assembly I cut off all the tabs and glued new tabs made from scraps of the same color from the old model from behind. Very small tabs were left off and those areas were edge glued using Super Glue gel. One tricky area is where the top of the viewport meets the hull (see the picture where the metal pick is pointing). I had to trim this area a little at a time to get it to fit together without puckering. I used the pick to push the edges into place and avoid creasing or ripping the part. Once the module was completely glued I started added the raised details. It’s better to do this last because gluing them flat makes it tougher for the now double-thick paper to fold or curve into its new shape. Sometime it can even cause the part to rip or the raised panel to pop off from the tension. Lastly I added the nose cone. It doesn’t match the studio model, but it’s what worked with the original part and it looks OK.:)

    Next up is the fuselage, which I’ve already done a lot of work on.

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    Can you tell me which model you're doing? Give me the link. I might be able to help you. :)
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    Thanks @zathros . It's in the Resources section under Space 1999. It's the Hawk model by JayBats.
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    Interestingly, this is the only paper model of this ship.
    I would like to see a detailed version made of it.
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    I found it. What would you like done. There's quite a bit of info out there. Is there a section you wish done. I'd do the whole model, but someone else would have to build the Beta, my hands just don't work too well these days. :)
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    @zathros The main problem I had was how the orange paint wraps around the command module. I've attached an additional pic of the bottom. It's supposed to follow the curve and have 2 small "projections" toward the rear on either side. The rounded part on the bottom is a separate piece.

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    So what's the problem? Deciding where to place them, you can make that section in a series of unfolded parts, and incorporate the paint as a texture. I'm working on the nose, let's see what we come up with. :)
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    C. WINGS
    Before working on the fuselage I reworked the wings that hold the main guns. I redrew all the graphics as they were not like the model at all. There are lots of raised details top and bottom and also some color. There are also some domed plastic pieces on the wing bottoms that I couldn’t replicate so I made similar shapes to take their place.

    The wings are designed as simple box-like pieces with a connecting piece that is made to glue across the top of the fuselage along with gluing the wings down. The problem is that throws off the look of the model and it’s a tough piece to line up, and the wings won’t be in the same place as on the studio model. Also, I already knew I was redoing the fuselage with raised detail which wouldn’t work with the wing center piece. I cut out the center and built each side separate. I used my metal pick to poke the holes in the leading wing edge then glued a small strip of black paper behind for a better recessed look. Making the little striped circle was a real challenge. I used double-sided tape to attach the circle to 2 pieces of 67 lb. white cover, then used a hole punch on the center and trimmed the outer edge. Inside the circle there is supposed to be a hollow rounded rectangle of the same height, but that was just too small for me to make so I skipped trying to hollow it out. There are still some dome/pole-like pieces that I have to create that go where the circles are behind the rings.

    On the studio model, the wings sort of wrap around the guns. You can see this in the reference pics. So I cut the outer bottom off each wing and trimmed the edge to match the model. I’ll have to do some filling of some sort when I go to install the guns but they should look better than if they were just glued to a flat bottom wing.

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