Raiders of the Lost Ark plane?

Discussion in 'Aircraft & Aviation' started by causticphlegm, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Paladin

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    I thought that other plane looked pretty cool too. Kinda like a Me-262 crossed with an Su-25.
  2. Alcides

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    Thanks Nando. Very interesting.

    If I remember well the original idea was the five engines plane but later Spielberg reduce the size of plane to avoid the high cost.

    By the way, Do you ever think about where this plane has a door to load the ark? Yes, I know is a fantasy but I was just wondering.

    Another: The undercarriage seems to be no retractile. Do you agree? I'm speaking on the plane in the movie.
  3. cdavenport

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    The movie plane is fictional though you can see the influence of Lippisch and Gotha designs from WWII in the airplane. For creating something fictional, I had to hand it to them for incorporating the real concepts into the movie prop. BTW, you can see the recreation of the movie prop at Disney's MGM studios (or you could years ago when ROTLA was a regular attraction).
  4. shrike

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    I had always wondered about stowing the ark. I rather assumed that it was a bomber and had an internal bay (altho' at the time the germans were very much into vertical bomb racks)
  5. Nando

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    It seams to be more like the Neal Sutton's Focke-Wulf Fw Ta 283 Ram Jet Fighter (from Luft '46 - WWII German aircraft projects site).

    [​IMG]
  6. paperbeam

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  7. Bengt F

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    The Other German Plane

    Terry,

    Yes, it is faily similar but apart from the extra jet (or turbo-prop) engine the plane in the book has a more pointed nose, swept-back wings and a different (more traditional-looking) double tailplane. Interesting design.

    I checked with all the designs on the Luft 46 site http://www.luft46.com/ but I couldnĀ“t find anything really close, apart from a couple of Arado designs, which seems to have been in about the same size, with either one or two engines.

    Bengt :thumb:
  8. dansls1

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    Slightly OT - but this is a really cool looking plane ;)
  9. paperbeam

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    Bengt:

    Now that I'm looking at it, the Arado 16/43-15 airframe does look a little closer to the second ROTLA German bird (although the jet engine on top is different):

    Arado Ar TEW 16/43-15 Luft '46 entry

    With what I've read about T-Stoff and C-Stoff's volatility in the rocket-powered Me 163 Komet, I can't imagine how many safety issues would have been involved in pairing it with a turbojet engine thrumming just feet away...:eek:

    Terry

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  10. Stev0

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    I would say it's more like a Messerschmitt but with Junkers engines.

    Messerschmitt Me P.08.01 Luft '46 entry

    Sorry but luft46.com is essentially a reference of aircraft porn for designers and voyeur enthusiasts. =p~~~~~
  11. shrike

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    You say that almost like it's a bad thing.
  12. paperbeam

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    Actually, I was referring to the propless prop which never even got built into a prop, not even propless, which was quite improper.::rofl:

    Terry

    Ping-Pong Ball Cannon and N/Z scale Old West paper models (free samples) at: paperbeam - virtual paper models
  13. Paladin

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    Not that I wanted to beat a dead cat or something, but I periodically look around on the Starship Modelers website:

    Starship Modeler Store:

    I noticed that Black Sun models is now selling a plastic model of the aircraft discussed here. They call it the Blohm & Voss BV-38.
    Anyone out there thinking about making a paper model of it?
  14. ARMORMAN

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    As I have said, It is next on my list after the Talon is completed.
  15. Paladin

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    Sounds great to me. I certainly admire your work, as you can tell.
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    Aircraft porn? That's funny.
    Can't wait to see the paper model.
  17. Janx

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    If Armorman is on it, should be cool. Looking forward to seeing it.
  18. ARMORMAN

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    Thanks for the compliment. I plan a full interior for it.

    BTW, if you look at the Black Sun model closely, you'll see that they even put the bike chain on the landing wheels that they used in the production to power the wheels and make it move.
  19. Alcides

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    I agree the model clearly represent the flying wing from the movie.

    The undercarriage is too big to retract in the wings.
  20. ARMORMAN

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    yeah.....but it looks cool....;)