Photography Game?

Discussion in 'Photos & Videos' started by slekjr, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. Packers#1

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    Yes, back to F units, looks like. Here's Norfolk Southern F9A #4270, works on their business train:
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    Took that during Masters week last year.
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    Packers is a fink! :p



    .... OK, not really, but it sux when we post at the same time!
  3. Packers#1

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    Yep. My bad.:mrgreen:
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    OK, take this!

    WM 193.

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    Charlie, I always thought that it was a hammerhead RS3. A steam generator was jammed into the short hood, but the hood was too short vertically... so they raised the roof.

    Doing a little research, I see that some rosters for WM list the 193 and 196 as RS3M's, but AFAIK, M implies a rebuild, like GB&W's, Conrail's, D&M's. Also AFAIK the WM RS3's came from Schenectady with the steam gennys.
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    RS3M
    Housatonic RR #9935.

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    See, now that's an RS3m... "m" for modified, in this case with an EMD 567.
  8. UP SD40-2

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    the CNW had four of those engines like the WM posted, if i remember correctly they were acquired from the Pennsy, i could have swore i read those were factory made:confused: .
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    I read about these being factory made as well.
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    Here is some info, pic and link I found about the "Hammerhead"

    http://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad/lv211/index.htm


    This unit was built by Alco-GE for the Pennsylvania Railroad in December 1953 and was delivered as PRR 8445. It is unique in that it has a raised short hood used to house the dynamic brakes and a steam generator for heating passenger cars. For obvious reasons it soon got the nickname "Hammer Head".
    This unit is one of five RS3's equipped with both dynamic brakes and a steam generator. PRR 8445 was built especially for helper service between Emporium and Keating Summit, Pa., on the Harrisburg-Buffalo line. The steam generator was installed to permit the 8445 to protect the passenger schedules on the line between Emporium and Erie in the event of a failure by the normally-assigned E8's.
  12. UP SD40-2

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    Thanks jim!

    GOOD JOB on the home work JIM!!!:bravo: :thumb: :mrgreen:
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    I deleted the pic because I didn't take it and only had it there for info purposes, but it is at the link provided with some more info on the unit:mrgreen:
  14. UP SD40-2

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    i cant leave it up long Charlie, this forums rules state pics NOT taken by the poster must be a link or have a link to it, copy write stuff ya know...:winki: . this pic is one from my private collection.
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    Thanks charlie

    THANKS for the link and the info you provided Charlie:thumb::thumb: :smilie:
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    AHA! That's the missing piece of the puzzle! Dynamic brakes! The tall steam genny explanation wasn't sitting well with me... I knew I was forgetting something!:v8:
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    C&NW had RSD5 hammerheads... not so sure about RS3's. :confused:

    *edit* OK, sorry. The pic came and went before I had a chance to see it, and I didn't see Charlie's link. I like my link better though. :p
  18. UP SD40-2

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    yea, i seen the high hood and got them mixed up:119: .
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    since the last link posted was a CNW, lets go with that:winki: ...

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    Charlie, that's where Alco stuck 'em on early models. I believe the vent/louver to dissipate the heat was on top of the short hood along with the steam genny's exhaust.

    All the dynamic brake really is is a big resistor grid. You blow air over it to cool it off... so all you need is space for a grid and a fan, and that's it. My guess is that on those early RS/RSD's there wasn't any spare room in the long hood for it. Once Alco raised the height of the long hood on later RS/RSD's, they could move the dynamics back over the generator above the cab.