Passenger car building

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  1. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

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    I'm currently working on three passenger cars. I don't think I've shared them here as of yet.

    They are, as might be guessed, South Park cars. One is a baggage-express car and the others are coaches. The coaches were built by Barney and Smith in 1878 (and today I drove past what remains of B&S's facilities, once the nation's premier car builder...in the days before AC&F and the Pullman acquisitions). One of the B&S coaches existed up until a few years ago although it had decayed into little more than kindling. Both of these survived as 2nd class coaches on the Colorado & Southern. Their fellow B&S kin of 1878, the 3rd car in the order, survived as a 1st class coach on the C&S as it was slightly wider...hence more comfortable. The baggage survived to the end of the C&S narrow gauge during the Second World War and a design-mate of hers now resides at the Stuhr Museum of the Prairie.

    The coaches I'm building were #3 and #5, Geneva and Leadville. The baggage car will be #40. They are part of my building plan to build a passenger car fleet of 2-4 coaches, 2-3 baggage cars, 1 combine, and 2-3 sleepers. I am using my own plans prepared from folios and standard practices to assemble the coaches.

    Ward Kimball of Disney caused a coach of the same plan to survive into the present...in pristine condition...which has allowed me to obtain decent photographs to assess such details as the arched windows and unusual roof...some where in between a duckbill and a bullnose.

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  2. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    Looks like you're off to a good start on an interesting project! :thumb:
  3. Russ Bellinis

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    I think most of Ward Kimball's prototype collection was donated to the Orange Empire Railroad Museum. If the passenger car is included in the collection at the Grizzly Flats building and you need any detail photos, send me a p.m. I'm a member of the museum and live about 1 1/2 hours away.
  4. nkp174

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    Russ, thank you! Yes, the car is at the museum. Since I started scratch building 19th century equipment...and searching for information on the prototypes...I've run across all sorts of interesting museums and equipment which I previously didn't know to exist...such as Ward Kimball's collection, Florida narrow gauges with 4-4-0s much like the DSP&P, and the Society for the Preservation of Carter Railroad Resources. I intend to visit the real car at some point in the future, but certainly have had a few questions. The biggest one is the fascia height...6" or 8"? Certainly, if you heading there anyways, there are a few photos I'd love to see!

    Tonight, I managed to get all four coach sides to the same point...and the second baggage car side is catching up...it needs the decorative batten's added below the windows, the internal window framing, the door corner moldings, and the framing below the windows. Bath time for the little one, my turn tonight, precluded more progress.

    Michael
  5. Russ Bellinis

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    I'm not sure when I will get back to the museum, but when I do, I'll try to get you as many pics as I can with some key measurements for you.
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    Thank you Russ.
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    All six car sides are complete on the outside, minus the ovals and the window corner moldings (which I'm adding right now). I still have to make the moving panes so that I can open the windows. I haven't decided if I'll build then ends before the interior walls.