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Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Model Railroading' started by CNWman, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. CNWman

    CNWman CNW Fan

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    Manuta, I think. I know there was an article involving an HO scale Unitah 51 2-6-6-2 that looked exactly like that one above this post
  2. MilesWestern

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    Nope, sorry. It cannot be them, because Mantua Does not exist anymore. An HO standard gauge version today would be made by model power, who owns the castings to manufacture them. They aren't On30, they're HO.

    I know that backwoods miniratures makes On30 conversion kits to make those into an O scale locomotive, albeit with cartoonishly small drivers.
  3. CNWman

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    Oh, maybe it was model power and the guy said it was a manuta casting. My bad:p
  4. PRRman

    PRRman Dum-Dum Pop Addict

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    Well, doesn't matter who makes it (unless it's made by a company that totally sucks), as long as engines like that are coming out in On30, I'm happy.
  5. nkp174

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    Precision Scale's MMI division. They're listing at $400-$700 (so selling for $300-$600 I'd guess) for those engines...but essentially equal to brass locomotives in quality.

    The mallets will also be available as rebuilt with tenders.
  6. CNWman

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    Well, if you ever do get one and it sucks and you can't get it replaced, I can try to fix it, or maybe the guys at DCC can. You should be worrying if it can handle 18' curves
  7. nkp174

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    Well, I can tell you for certain that it doesn't suck...it's Precision Scale...Better than Bachmann, Life-Like, BLI, etc... Those 2-6-6-2's operated on a railroad that almost had 18" radius curves...they were so sharp :)
  8. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    The Uintah had the two mallets built to operate over Baxter Pass. the grade was around 6%, and the curve was 66 degrees! In HO, an 18' radius is only 45 degrees, 66 degrees is closer to 15" radius!
    The "rebuilt with tender versions" are the Sumpter Valley Railway's 250, and 251. SVRY used the tenders from two Mikados that they later sold to the White Pass and Yukon. The Mikes, and their tenders (recovered from Guatemala) are back on the Sumpter Valley property.
    The only reservation I have with making these mallets On30, is that they were unique. They were the only narrow gauge articulated locomotives,(and the largest narrow gauge locomotives) operated in the continental United States. Using the Model Power (ex Mantua) 2-6-6-2 mechanism for an On30 loco, I can live with, as long as they are not carbon copies of the Uintah 50 and 51, or the SVRY 250 and 251(which, by the way, they are, except for the fact that Mantua built them as standard gauge.
    The pic is of the Mantua, as a 2-6-6-2T, standard gauge.

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  9. PRRman

    PRRman Dum-Dum Pop Addict

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    Oh! almost forgot! Can you get it with a paint job from any of the Midwest/New England railroads (e.g. C&O, B&O, Pennsey, NY Central, etc.)?
  10. nkp174

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    Nope. No non-prototypical paint schemes on these. Precision Scale only paints them accurately for the railroads the real engines served on...or undecorated.

    You could get one and decal it for NYC, B&O, whatever.

    The C&O, B&O, and NYC were entirely standard gauge (to my knowledge). The Pennsy had a 36" gauge subsidiary, which is why Spectrum offered their 2-6-0 in PRR.

    Most people whom pay $300+ for models want them either undecorated or painted accurately. That's why you see low end models like IHC painted for everything with higher end models painted only to a handful of roadnames.

    I'll post some links to some Colorado Narrow Gauge pictures...they are proportionally (route miles vs. following) around 10,000x more popular than almost all other railroads.

    There were also some ALCO 3' gauge 2-6-6-2 that served on the N de M...slightly smaller than the Uintah engines.
  11. PRRman

    PRRman Dum-Dum Pop Addict

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    Hmmm... Guess I'll have to make do with what I can get my hands on. Well, this wouldn't be the first time...Oh! and I'd better get that Shay, too! Geared locos are AWESOME, and I am working on a logging railroad....
  12. CNWman

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    I DID tell you there was a logging forum, right? Or mabye I frogot to...
  13. Triplex

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    Quite an understatement, actually. The ruling grade was about 7.5%, and a 66 degree curve scales to just over 12" in HO.
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    Aah...lovely! I don't care if it's not available for any Eastern/Midwestern railroads, I'm getting it anyway! WOOT!
  15. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    And I thought it was just the camera lens that made it look like the engineer, in the cab, could reach out and shake the hand of the conductor, in the caboose, as they passed each other on the curve! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: