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Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by Cookie, Feb 8, 2005.
Doc, is it true that in your train room, you only play music by Ennio Morricone?
Only certain selections Will, only certain selections.
I also have an original Christmas on the Ponderosa album (you know, one of those large round flat black plasticy things, not the smaller shiny silver one) that my wife says if I play one more time, I have to change the name of my railroad.
well, yeah, but saying one's layout is set in the "old west" isn't exactly "narrowing it down" much in terms of potential terrain! It is an indicator of era, and very rough geographical region, and of course there are probably cowboys in it.
Sounds like you're getting the kind of information and ideas you were hoping for Cookie. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it!
Ralph..........I did get plenty of sites and information and I guess the word "timeframe" or "era" would best describe my old west and what I am trying to do. When I do work on this layout....I think my plan is "not to have a plan". One plan that I do have ......is to enjoy the opportunity to relax and enjoy the trip. Yep.... Cowboys and a few Indians and a hangin' tree and buffalo and boot hill and horses and covered wagons and Wells Fargo and ..............
Cookie, have you figured out a track plan yet?
In the western area, you could have a small cattle town and then a scene with Indians hunting the buffalo before going into the logging area.
Or were you thinking Mining camp and logging, thus having eveything in the foothills?
...... The track is on and I have been running trains for some time (since last summer). I have 2" foam on and have several foam "rock mountains" creating a tunnel. I have a complete western town. This area is really starting to take shape but it is a long way from being completed. This will be the western half and I really like the idea of the buffalo and Indians and that will not be a problem at all. I have buffalo and mountain goats that were ordered from Colorado. My problem is having enough time to paint and detail everything..... and I'm retired.....go figure. I have 5 engines with one of them being a 3 truck Shay and log cars that I purchased about 2 weeks ago for the logging side.
I take it, then, that you'll have two scenes--a prairie scene and a mountain scene? Or were buffalo found in the mountains too?
Well I'll be danged, thar's buffalo in them thar mountains.
Yes.......I have a very small prairie scene and a mountain area. I have seen buffalo in Yellowstone...the Tetons....Badlands prairie...Custer State Park and there are about 400 head in Bagdad, Ky. where I live.......and last but not least I have seen one somewhere that you can put a quarter in and ride..Wal-Mart?? Your suggestions about the buffalo should make a great blend to the next scene.
Okey doke...now that I think about it, I saw a buffalo or two in some semi-mountainous portions of Wyoming, from the UP mainline. Other than that the only buffalo I remember seeing were the little preserve at the particle accelerator facility outside of Chicago, so I'm no authority on buffalo. We don't have 'em out here in Californy.
Although I do note that in three out of the four photos shown, the buffalo are actually in a nice flat area NEXT to the mountains, rather than in 'em--not quite the same thing.
Some other western-type things about buffalo and trains: There were "buffalo hunts" sponsored by railroad lines--not really hunts as such, but trains carrying men with rifles, who rode through areas where buffalo herds were found, shooting buffalo from the train. Typically they didn't stop to make any use of the buffalo they shot, and it wasn't exactly sporting, but I imagine it was great fun.
"Old West" towns are also appropriate in mountainous regions--in some of the more remote areas of California's northcoast and the Sierras, I see towns that don't look too far removed from the Old West other than a few pickup trucks in place of horses, and satellite TV antennas.
It seems like there would be some good possibilities for operation on your layout, Cookie: the mountain logging operation supplies lumber to the prairie-based boomtown, which in turn supplies foodstuffs to the loggers.
Hmmm...didn't Buffalo Bill get his name supplying buffalo meat for some similar enterprise?
While I too do not suppose that I am an authority on bison, my wife is a long time admirer and has amassed quite a collection of texts on them. A quick glance throught some of them revealed numerous references to Bison athabascae, or mountain buffalo, (sometimes also referred to as the wood buffalo). Not nearly as numerous or as well known as their plains dwelling cousins, there have been documented historical sightings as well as complete skeletal remains discovered in mountain areas such as Pikes Peak, Yellowstone and Rocky Mountain National Park as high as 12,000 feet. To me, this qualifies a mountain.
When the space is limited....4x8....the transition period must occur quickly and get to the point....... this will make the Indians feel a lot better about hunting with a small stick and a bow....they don't have to shoot as far!
Thanks for the conversation and the information. JIM
Have you considered a scenic divider down the middle (long ways) of the 4x8? This would allow two very different scenes--on one side, dramatic mountain scenery up to the backdrop, and on the other, a lonesome prairie backdrop. Maybe a few foothills at one end to provide some transition--and a great place to put a Boot Hill scene!
down the middle
The divider down the middle would force me to do quite a bit of damage to the work already done on the 4x8 board. The room where the layout is located is about a 12x12 and this makes it difficult to see both sides of the divider at the same time. This room also has the computer, workbench and storage chest in it...so it gets a bit tight at times. I understand what you are saying but I don't think it would work in my situation but thanks for the suggestion.