need a small logging plan please

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  1. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    hey yall.i found a small spot in my garage for a 4 by 8 layout.and was thinking it would be nice to have a change from the mid west to the...well west! :mrgreen:.i love deep gorges,and big elevation changes.i plan on it being set in the twenties but no real time zone will be followed.but shays and i believe climaxes were still around so big grades aren't a problem.i don't care if its for logging or mining.the small trackplans i have seen they look virtually the same.but any info is greatly appreciated.this will be the first western layout i ever built,so i don't know much and any of you westerners knowledge is greatly appreciated.thanks in advance.--josh
  2. nachoman

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    this may just be up your alley:

    Dan’s Train Blog » 2006 » October

    Scroll down to the "lilliput logger" track plan. It was published in model railroader, I think, but I am not sure what issue.

    Kevin
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    thanks kevin.that plan was exactly what i was looking for! now one question,is this HO,HOn3,HOn30 or what? it doesnt matter to me but if it is narrow id need a dual gauge interchange.thanks.--josh
  4. nachoman

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    I think it was designed for standard gauge HO. I have considered modifying it for HO/HOn3 by making the lower loop standard or dual gauge and the branch up the mountain as HOn3.

    Standard gauge would work for the whole thing for a loging or mining theme as long as the locos and cars are kept short. I think the bachmann climax or 0-6-0t would be perfect.

    Kevin
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    Climaxes were still being built until 1928, Heislers until 1941 and Shays until 1945.
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    thanks for the help guys.i didnt think finding a suitable trackplan would be this easy.and i think ill keep it standard.i dont want to have to buy all new equipment just for this.--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    wow,i always thought of them as early 1900's.so thats cool,how do you think the bachmann engines run? i've heard good things about them.--josh
  8. nachoman

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    Glad I could be of assistance. When you do start to build, whatever it is, be sure to take lots of photos ans share them here!

    Kevin
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    alright....i have an issue.ic ant get any of the tracks to lign up in Xtrk!!!!.i want to use the prints to make the track laying easier.so if any one could either point me in the right direction or convert it to Xtrk it would be alot of help.thanks.--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    well,heres what i've come up with so far,its now 50" by 96" instead of 48" width.that extra 2" really helped.the logging camp is in the top right yard.the main yard and fishermans wharf is on the bottom.with 2 trestles around the right side and a turntable in the middle.and am i correct they had these wherever they needed a loc turn.not just at engine servicing?--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    sorry about the small size and wrong name,ill repost in a minute.--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    Hello Josh,:wave: you did a great job redrawing that track plan:thumb:. But the way it looks to me, that spot where you moved that turntable is behind a scenery block. It looks like the tt would be hidden. It looks like the tracks in front will be higher.

    Loren
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    the table is accessible from both sides,the TT and logging camp will be viewable.thanks for the compliment!--josh
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    I'm going to be my usual contrary self and make some comments. (1) Think switchbacks for elevation changes. Makes for some interesting operating. (2) Turntables were not used on many logging lines. The use of a wye was more common and in many cases the loco's were simply run in reverse one direction or the other. Also, on steep grades, it was common to run with the front of the locomotive up grade to keep water over the crownsheet in the boiler. (3) If you are going to have a fishing wharf, how about finding room for a log dump on the water? (4) Are those tunnels that I see on the two right end corners? Tunnels, especially long ones, were a luxury that most logging outfits couldn't afford.
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    thanks for responding
    1.)i dont want to get crazy with this plan.i like to keep it close to the original lilliput logger plan.
    2.)OK,ill just make it a depot for the logging town.and just run engines whatever direction there in.
    3.)i could probably do that where it is on the left side track.id use some log pylons to seperate log from boat :mrgreen:.
    thanks for your help.--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    or instead of a depot where the TT is i could have a bridge going over a stream from the logging site.i just might use that idea,it sounds interesting...--josh
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    i forgot our last statement.i like the tunnels because they provide an easy scenery block for the divider.but if you know another way ill gladly try it.but id have to keep the one under the switchback and logging camp yard.thanks.--josh
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    You could use a deep gorge or canyon at an angle to get the view block without a tunnel.
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    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

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    unless i didn't understand what you meant,i tried getting rid of tunnels and the way the track overlaps it wouldn't allow enough space in between bridge decks to allow a loco through.so can we just say its a VERY productive RR :mrgreen:.but heres what i got so far with everything labeled.but if you do find a way to get rid of tunnels without serious modification it would be cool.thnks.--josh
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