my very first design c-47

Discussion in 'Gallery & Designs' started by yaniv, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. 57townsman

    57townsman Member

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    That looks great, Yaniv. :grin:

    For the tail segment, what if you modeled the fuselage, tail fin and fillet as separate pieces? That way the fuselage segments would be conic sections with the last one tapering to a flat rather than a point. Keep in mind, I'm viewing this from an assembly point of view rather than a design viewpoint. I don't know if it is easier to design it as one piece then cut it up or to design as individual pieces. :oops:

    SteveK
  2. yaniv

    yaniv Active Member

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    another pic of the new tail

    still cant make the last tail part

    but u think its looks ok or suld i tray somthing different?

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  3. Lex

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    Wow, it's fantastic! You can stick to this.
  4. yaniv

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    hi nezard

    u realy think its looks like the source?

    i still need to make the last part but not time for it yet :(
  5. fimdan

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    Hey.

    I might have missed that but what is the scale of you model? Have you configured rhino to use proper units? It is much easier to work on your project when you have your model designed with proper dimensions. For example if you intend to build your model in 1:50 scale, make sure that every meter from 1:1 scale shows up as 2 cm in rhino. This way you will avoid a lot of changes that will be necessary when scaling the model down. It is very easy to be deceived by rhino when it comes to distances. For example, you may think that something is big on your screen, but when you scale it and print it you may find that your part is too small to even cut it out. Keep that in mind. Also, remember that paper is not infinitely thin (unlike the surfaces you are working with in rhino) so keep that in mind as well. May not matter with big parts but small pieces may become difficult to assemble.

    Just a word of advice,

    Good job and don't give up,

    FimDan
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    thanks my friend

    well i think make it in 1/33 scale what i need to do in rhino to make it on 1/33
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  7. fimdan

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    Ok

    First think is to set model units in properties to whatever you like to work with. In my case I decided to work with centimeters (see the attached image). I strongly suggest you take a minute or two exploring properties window. It contains a lot of useful settings that you may want to adjust to your liking.

    Once you choose the right model units, you can set the background image to proper size. In my case, I scaled the background image to make the sub about 98cm long (1:100 scale). It helps to have drawings that have scale bars in them. This way you can check if you got everything set up correctly. If you work in 1:33 scale than each meter on the scale bar should equal to about 3.03 cm in rhino. 33 x 3.03 is about 100.

    This way, rhino dimensions are the same as your model's dimensions. This really helps when you have to offset curves or surfaces.

    That should get you started. Let me know if something is not clear.

    FimDan

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    Um... Just to ask, does those scale not get lost when you export the model? And through all the reduce/fit to paper size thingys?
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    thank u very mach fimdan :)

    i just need to figer how to make my tail :(
  10. fimdan

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    Good question.

    That depends. I believe exporting from rhino is accurate enough. I export all unrolled parts to corel draw and print them from there (using ai format). When you do it that way the program asks you if you want to preserve model scale.

    Printer handling is another story that has nothing to do with making a model in rhino. If your printer does not print right, you should get one that does. This is manufacturer specific issue. My i960 from Cannon does a good job keeping dimensions right. You should always print your pages with a few scale bars so that you can easily check if your printer is messing things up.

    Yes that is always difficult. The fuselage is usually the easiest part. I got stuck on my D520 tail as well. Good luck and don't be discouraged. Take it easy. You chose a good aircraft. Don't make it too complicated.

    FimDan
  11. Lex

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    Yes Yaniv, give it a brainstorm and see what designs you can come up with :D

    And FimDan, I normally don't worry about scales as I normally prefer printing at some awkward precentage~ For the few that does I'll scale the parts in the drawing program instead.
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    after all this bed news about the tail that i not found the way to make

    i have some funny news

    the 5000 viewer will got a copy or a big discount tot he model :)
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    Looks like perseverance works Yaniv! It truely coming to gether nicely.

    One day I've got to learn that stuff (Rhino) ........... right now it's just pretty colors and lines. One day with a point of reference I'll be able to help:oops:

    john
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    u make the colors i make the 3d work :)
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    i need some rear side pic of the tail

    any one can help me found some?
  16. yaniv

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    i make this today after i not found any way to progres my tail

    so some smol progres on the plane will be more practical :)

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  17. cgutzmer

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    Lookin good there Yaniv! Good idea to go to another part. COming back later always seems to help me.
    Chris
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    looks like we have afix tail :)

    after +- 3 weeks looks like we do it

    what u think?

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    what u have to say :p?

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  20. paulhbell

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    First time I've looked in for a couple of days, looks bloody good.