JV models sawmill construction

Discussion in 'Logging, Mining and Industrial Railroads' started by Glen Haasdyk, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. Glen Haasdyk

    Glen Haasdyk Active Member

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    I'm not putting your methods down, it's just that I've never tried them. I've always had a "whatever works' additude towards people's modeling methods.
    All I have left in the kit now is the wood that is for building the machinery and the water barrel castings so that's why I'm going to have to fabricate the roof using other materials.
    Thanks for your help
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    Just a quick update. I got home today and there was a package in the mail from JV models. Inside was the missing roof pieces. I apologize for the continued complaining seeing as everything turned out okay now.
    This weekend I got about halfway through the headsaw fabrication with the frame and most of the machinery components scratchbuilt. Now I have to put it together and start positioning it all in the building itself.
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    I finished the headsaw, cariage track (it's glued down now) and the rolls. I broke with the habit of using wood and built the rolls out of styrene. Sine all the equipment is painted you can't tell the difference and styrene was easier to work with in this case. The headsaw looks pretty convincing, considering it has a real saw blade. I used a mix of brass and styrene to fabricate the shafts and pulleys.
    I started to scratchbuld the steam engine. I'm using a set of old climax drawings to figure the dimensions for the mechanicals. I figure that an operation like this could have salvaged part of a climax to build the power unit for the mill. so far I've built the cylinder and crosshead. After that comes the piston rod , drove wheel, frame, flywheel and drive pulley. the rest should come along shortly.
    After that I'm starting the edger. I'm not an expert but from the one picture I'm got the edger looks like a set of live rolls with a set of circular saws across to resize the plank widths. Does anyone have pictures of one so I can get a better idea?
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    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    This was one of the selling points Allen Armitage made, years ago, in his case for modeling in styrene, when it was still,"looked on unfavorably" by the modeling community.
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    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    Glen,
    The Spring 2007, "the Logging, Mining, & Industrial Annual" from the publishers of Finescale railroader, is out, and has ten pages on a steam powered sawmill model being built. Many clear photos, and lots of detail. Yeah, it's $17.99, but I think you might like all the information there, to help with your mill interior.
    Pete
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    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    Actually, Finescale Railroader is no longer published,that was primarily G scale. only the "Annual" is available now.
    the "outside the U.S." price is $22.99 Westlake Publishing Company, 1574 Kerryglen Street, Westlake Village Ca. 91361 is the publisher.
    The first 47 pages, are photos of Rayonier logging locomotives. This is one of the really good references for logging, and as the name infers, industrial, and mining, prototype, and model information.
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    Glen, if you search for Keystone Edger you should get some rough pictures of the edger. Having said that, there are some good saw mill sites on the web that will reinforce your layout and should have photos of all the equipment. I would have provided the site in question, but that was on my recently crashed hard disk. I'll give another look-see.

    Regards,
    Trent Mulkern
    Mechanicsville, MD
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    Thanks Trent. I'm halfway through building the edger now. My Father-in-law is a master carpenter and used to work in a sawmill back in the sixies. I showed him the drwing of the edger that I'm using it build my own and he said it was just like the one they had in his old mill.
    Again because it's easier with this particular project the material will be styrene. After it's build I'll be positioning the equipment and trying to figure out the belt system. The Instructions say that the prototype had an under-floor belt system which I've never heard of before. I'm not sure if I should try to build a belt drive in the roof or under the floor.
    As a side note I'm almost finished this roll of film in my camera so pictures could be posted soon. We're also going to be looking at a digital camera in the next couple of weeks so I'll be able to post progress pictures as soon as I take them (finally!)
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    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    If memory serves me right, the mill at Cass, WV had an under the floor belt system. By its nature, there would be less visible pieces, than with an overhead belt system.
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    Thanks, I think I will be building an under floor system. At least it will look like an under floor. I figure that I'll just cut the floor where the pulleys are and install the belts going under but not conect them since no one will see the underside anyway.
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    Good news. I've got Pictures to share. I finally finished the roll of film in my camera and got it developed.

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    Here's the floor joists in place on the template They are tacked in place temporairily with pins into a foam block.
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    The machine shop wall. The large doorway will conect the two parts on the mill. After the glue dries I'll add the wall sheeting
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    The walls are up and you can see what kind of job the acrylic paint stain does. The indiviual boards stand out nicely. I added the bracing on the ends because I was going to have a removable roof. I changed my plans when I discouvered my roof didn't sit flat on the walls so I'll probably be glueing it on and leaving half of the roof unsheeted so you can see inside.
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    The log carriage. As I mentioned before it's about 2 1/2" long and there are thirty-eight parts to it. It took me a week to build

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    I built the carriage track acourding to the instructions in the JV models kit, adapting it slightly for the size of the carriage. Beside it the beginings of the steam boiler power plant, made out of an old rifle shell. I'm not sure If I'm going to use it though. I have a half-finished climax that I was scratchbuilding a couple years ago and I might just use that instead.
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    The rolls. They are located behind the headsaw so the cut planks fall and are carried away to the men operating the edger.

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    This is a quick mock-up of the carriage end on the mill. the carriage, headsaw and rolls are in place but just placed there, not glued down. I'll wait untill I complete the machinery before i do that. since this picture was taken I built the steam engine to power the machinery, and half-built the edger. I didn't realize untill I developed my pictures that I hadn't taken I good picture of the headsaw. I'll take one later.
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    The roof trusses. After making the 6 trusses I pinned them into place over a template that I made of the top of the mill. After this pic was taken I added the stringers that tied them all together.
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    Glen,
    Knock your socks off good looking! The log carriage, rollers, and head saw are great! Nice work!

    I am, however, not too surprised that your LPB drove his truck into the pile of pipe. :oops: Hope the building crew didn't have to spend too much time getting it out of trouble. :-D
    Very nice pictures, thanks!

    Edit: LPB, Little Plastic "Boss"
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    Thanks. I'm going to work on the edger tonight and then the steam boiler.

    Oh yeah, the truck in the pipe is just something I have to deal with ever since the beer parlour opened just a block away from the construction site.
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    I finished the edger this week. I used small thin washers for the blades. It's pretty much built all out of styrene.
    Next the boiler!