Intoduction and First layout

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by Amrap1, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. racer25j

    racer25j Member

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    I agree. I started small but I'm up to 4X16 and looking for ways to expand.
  2. Amrap1

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    Hello? Is this thing on?

    Ed
  3. LongIslandTom

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    Looks good!

    On the amount of effort you have put into it: The ashtray full of butts is particularly telling. :D
  4. smokey

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    Another Noob

    Another one just starting out (or rather getting back into it). Last time I built a track, I had trouble with the cars derailing around the turnouts. I dont remember what brand I used, but it was probably too cheap. What's the best brand for a turnout that doesnt promote derailing?

    Smokey
  5. pgandw

    pgandw Active Member

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    Please start a new trhread so the answers don't get buried in the ongoing saga of this fine layout. No commercial turnout tested has been 100% on spec with NMRA Recommended Practices. Most work well enough to not derail, but some will need adjustment. Many wheel sets and couplers also need adjustment. Tools of the trade are an NMRA gauge and a Kadee coupler height gauge, needle files, stryene strips, needle nose pliers, CA glue, and a willingness to make adjustments until everything is right.

    my thoughts, your choices
  6. sidetracked

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    looks like lots of progress being made,,,,,, cant wait till I get to the point of it actually look like I'm getting something done,,,,,,, keep the pics coming,,,,,, ,,,,,,,, st
  7. Amrap1

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    Too bad I didn't get pictures of the garbage can full of tea bags, covered by pop cans and then covered with beer cans. The beer cans go in when I'm done and cleaning up. Learned along time ago that beer and most construction equals disaster!

    Ed
  8. Amrap1

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    If anyone reading this thread thinks about what we're doing, It envolves:

    Carpenter skills: gotta build the benchwork in many different forms.
    Mechanical skills: changing trucks and couplers for compatability.
    Electrical skills: wiring track, switches and lights ( if you want lights)
    Artistic skills: building models, painting, glue...could go on forever....

    It takes alot of work to do this. Anyone that takes this on by themself is either nuts or has some of the skills and looks for help on what they don't know. I think most of us fit into this catagory..Nuts and have most of the skills!

    After reading my whole post from the beginning, I realised how much I didn't know and how much I've learned from you and on my own. I got frustrated and got support. I asked questions and got answers.

    Ed
  9. doctorwayne

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    Neat place this is, eh? :thumb: :thumb:

    Wayne
  10. Amrap1

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    Finally finished the mine/processing plant. I will be mining ballast. I know....train track ballast around Cleveland is mostly "slag". The leftover material from making steel. I'm sure in other parts of the country ballast used on tracks is a naturally found material.

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    Another view....

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  11. Amrap1

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    Cork Railbed?

    Started glueing the railbed down. Curves were fun, but I figured it out. Then I got to the turn out. I remember seeing turn out pads...Are they the same height as the cork track bed?

    Ed
  12. Amrap1

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    Going back to the hill/tunnel.....

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    Rather than tryng to fill all the holes from the plaster cloth with more plaster cloth. I used joint compound slightly watered down....
  13. Amrap1

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    Made more progress today. Worked on putting down trackbed around my Gravel/Ballast plant. I went to the LHS to get turnout pads and saw a cool Granite facility. I'm thinking of maybe combining the two. I remember seeing a granite mine in someone's layout and thought it looked pretty nice.

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    I used Elmer's white glue and the big yellow headed pins to hold it in place. The track is just pinned down to make sure the trains run before gluing the track down. Before calling it a night, I wanted to see what lights would look like in and around the plant:

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    Here's a view at an incoming train height
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    Ed
  14. Amrap1

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    Questions, Questions and more Questions

    I want to pre-wire my buildings from now on. I'm wondering what's the best way?

    Does anyone have any links to layouts with a granite mine?

    I want to weather that gravel/ballast plant. Does anyone know of a simple, step by step tutorial. I've read some here, but they seem to be too advanced for me. It took 4 days to build that plant and I don't want to ruin it!

    I'm using the EZ-Command DCC and the train slows down uphill and speeds up downhill (Newton's law of Gravity). Will running feeder power lines around the hills stop this? I know EZ-Command is a lower end DCC system, would a better one help? Is there a way to slow the train down on down grades?

    Ed
  15. Amrap1

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    I'm starting to wonder! I asked questions almost 2 whole days ago and got NO ANSWERS. I'm really serious about putting together a great layout and have worked on it for alot of time.

    What's the problem? Am I uploading too many pictures to the thread? Did I say something to turn people off? I said I was new at the beginning and I think I've come along way so far. If you guys don't want to hurt my feelings, don't worry....I've been a Manager at a large Apartment Community for 17 years and have been called alot of things! I can take critisism.

    Ed
  16. sidetracked

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    hey amrap1,,, I think it looks great,,,,, you are so far ahead of me I dont feel too qualified to offer any advice but I sure dont see anything wrong with it,,,,, I say keep up the good work and I dont think you can download to many pictures,,keep them coming,,,,, ,,,,,, ,,,,, st
  17. Amrap1

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    Yesterday I showed the pictures of the Gravel plant to our mailman who is also into trains and has his own layout. I asked him about lighting and he gave me some suggestions.

    Trace your structure onto the benchwork, figure out how high or low the windows are, and put a stick/rod/pole into the foam base and glue or tape the lights to it at the height(s) needed. Run your wires, test and adjust if needed. I did that and added a temporary parking lot with cars to see how it would look.

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    Different view:

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    I'm wondering if there are "up-lights" or "spotlights" to light either from the ground to the structure or from the structure down to the ground?

    Ed
  18. LongIslandTom

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    Heya Amrap1, I think in the Weathering forum, Trucklover posted a thread about weathering his cement plant (which would be similar to your gravel/ballast plant I think!) Check it out and I think it will give you some good ideas on how to weather your structure.

    I think you are indeed quite an advanced modeler having so much accomplished in such short time, so the lack of answers to your questions is probably because most of us do not feel qualified to kibitz! sign1

    You should be posting tutorials yourself on doing some of the stuff you did, you know. :thumb:
  19. Amrap1

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    I did see Trucklover's thread and he did indeed weather the same plant. I was very impressed and told him so. He also changed things a bit, which I wish I would have thought of.

    I'm no ADVANCED modeler. Unless most people here are new! Thanks for the compliment!

    I actually posted the pictures thinking that most people would offer suggestions and hoped that a few would be impressed.

    Ed
  20. LongIslandTom

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    Count me in as one of those impressed by your efforts! :thumb: