Info Needed Regarding Sn2

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Model Railroading' started by only15, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. only15

    only15 PRO:Pain In The Behind

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    Hi all,
    im looking at starting to build in Sn2, i will be using N scale track.
    Can anyone point me to some useful info please?
  2. TrainNut

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    I'd never heard of Sn2 until now. I did however do a quick search of the internet using simply "Sn2 trains" and up popped a handful of sites. Not many, but enough that would probably branch out into other links. Google it... or as I did, MSN search it if you haven't already.:rolleyes: Sn2 sounds like a neat scale to model.
  3. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    Well, You caught me napping! I actually had to go measure N scale track with an "S" scale ruler, and.....it really is 2' gauge track in S scale! :excited1:
    As you get into this project, please keep us up to speed with photos. This sounds like a great addition to the "Narrow Gauge Model Railroading" forum! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
  4. Mountain Man

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    Just for shucks and giggles...how many scales are there? I started thinking about it and came up with a longer list than I thought:

    G, O, On30, On3, On2, Sn30, Sn3, Sn2, N, N3 (haven't heard of Nn2 or Nn30yet), TT, and Z. I know I've missed some, and I haven;t counted the ultra-large operating scales that guys ride around on, nor have I counted 1/8th scale since the ones I know about don't actually run.

    Do Gn30, Gn3 and Gn3 exist?
  5. TrainNut

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    Let's see if we can keep adding to this list until we get 'em all.
    The ones I know of that you have missed are S, HO, HOn3, HOn3o. Sooo, the list grows to,

    G, O, On30, On3, On2, S, Sn30, Sn3, Sn2, HO, HOn3, HOn3o, N, N3, TT, and Z.

    Also, don't forget that "Only 15" is still looking for info on Sn2 if anyone knows of any.
  6. chooch.42

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    Only15, Hi, and welcome! My head is a little off on this one...Sn 2 is 3/16":1' scale, or 1/64 actual size - the 2(foot gauge) is close to N scale track gauge, yes??? :oops: We might be talking N scale mechanisms with S scale superstructures, for convenience sake. There are very few prototype 2' ga. roads (Historically) in the US, maybe more in Australia, around your end of the planet. I'm sure there are some 2' ga. modellers around, but don't know if they're on this forum. If so, I know they'll give you a hand. All the Best Bob C.
  7. Mountain Man

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    Good grief! I completely forgot the H0's! Fifty lashes on the back of the eyeball with a wet noodle...:oops:
  8. Mountain Man

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    IIRC, wasn't one of the earliest 2' protos a NGRR in wales working a shale mine? Still around as a tourist RR - someplace with a totally unpronouncable Welsh name?
  9. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

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    Welsh

    No, the one with the totally unpronounceable Welsh name is on the Main Line to Anglesey*.
    The one you're thinking of is the Tal y llyn.


    *llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
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    60103 Pooh Bah

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    And you've also left out all the OO scale variants. After all, we have 3 ways just to do standard gauge. :eek:
  11. DanRaitz

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    Going back to only15's question.

    Check out this web site.
    Sn2 Home Page

    You'll see that most who model in Sn2 use HOn3 track and mechanism's because of the larger tie spacing and wheels.

    Dan
  12. chooch.42

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    wall1Senior Moment..should have got this yesterday... Bar Mills Models has an Sn2 display layout...Bar Mills on the Road , have a look,and enjoy. Bob C.:thumb:
  13. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    The only problem with this, is that HOn3 track measures 2'-7" in S scale(better for Sn30, at 31"), and N track measures 2' in S scale. In the larger scale (S) the difference would be quite noticeable. If using N flex track, removing every other tie would be a better alternative than using HOn3 track. N scale mechanisms are not "cheap" but they have come a long way, and are far more dependable these days. The larger (S scale) superstructures, will be too large. In this case HO scale superstructures(boilers), and S scale cabs, would be closer in proportion than even Sn3.
    OK, I'm "counting rivets", but, if someone is going to get into the level of kitbashing required to do Sn2, they might as well adhere to closer tolerances of "scale".
  14. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    On another note completely, Only15 is a new member (Welcome to the gauge!), and has opened a very interesting thread on Sn2.
    I am asking that if others wish to discuss the different scales, please open a new thread for that purpose, so that the starter of this thread doesn't have to "wade through the unrelated stuff" to get the answers needed. If you do open a new thread, I can move the posts here, to that thread.
    Thanks in advance,
    Pete,
    Moderator,
    "Narrow Gauge Model Railroading" forum.
  15. DanRaitz

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    Pete,

    according to the Sn2 home page HOn3 track scales out to 26.5" and N scale track to 22.6". So either way your going to be about 2" off in gauge.
  16. only15

    only15 PRO:Pain In The Behind

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    Thankyou all, im not exactly a "rivet counter" but the thought of seen a S scale critter running on N track gets my blood pumping! i was thinking of smaller loco's and rollingstock, like the Australian Sugar Cane Railways in the north of australia......
    I also model my local prototype in OO and i chose an "oddball" scale for something a little different....
    I will keep all you posted
    Thankyou again

    Regards
    Nathan
  17. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

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    I measured with the vernier caliper, instead of the scale rule, and you are correct. HOn3 track is 2.5 scale inches too wide, and N scale track is 1.4 scale inches too narrow.
    I think the final decision comes down to availability, and cost, with a eye to how well the chosen mechanisms look in the larger scale of 1:64. Which ever you choose, Only15, have fun with it, and post some photos, so we can enjoy your work.
  18. Jim Krause

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  19. only15

    only15 PRO:Pain In The Behind

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    um.... funny you mention that:rolleyes:, Im not entirely sure.

    I was just going to go freelance with a strong Aussie Cane Railway/Limestone theme.
    Im using this railway as inspiration - Ida Bay Railway Home Page
    I have been there and been hooked ever since :thumb:
  20. colo64

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    Only 15, Knowing a little about S scale the following conversions may be of intrest you. Modlers have converted the AHM Plmonth switcher and the Atheran Hustler to Sn3 and you may be able to convert them to Sn2 using NWSL parts. Another model you might use is a HOn3 DRG&W #50 switcher. These could be used if you use HOn3 gauge for Sn2. To use N gauge for Sn2 you might be able to use a Kato NW2 or LL SW8 switcher to power the AHM or Atheran switchers I lister. If you realy want to use N gauge for two foot track you might want to look a HOn30 (HOn2 1/2).