These arent to bad, I ordered an 8 piece set. Nothing special straight out of the box but the price is right. I bought them because I can upgrade them as money permits. IHC sells interior kits and lighting kits for these. I'll add those items, Kadee wheels and couplers and I think they will fit the bill quite well. :thumb: One thing I forgot to mention.... you will definately have to weight these to bring them up to specs because there isnt anything "heavyweight" about them. Otherwise...nice.