I need Help Identifying This Log Loader

Discussion in 'Logging, Mining and Industrial Railroads' started by Ho Modeler, Apr 6, 2004.

  1. Ho Modeler

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    Hello Eric,
    Can we see a bigger photo please:thumb:
    Shamus
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  3. jon-monon

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    Surry Parkers stood up off the rails like that, but it looks kinda different. [​IMG]

    Any idea where the pic came from?

    What logging company may have used it?

    SP is a Southern gig.

    Oh, and

    :wave: :wave: :wave: Welcome!!!!:wave: :wave: :wave:
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    Very like the McGiffert log loader, here's the one I built.
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  5. Ho Modeler

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    Logging

    Thanks Shamus
    I am also a member of the trainboard.com under the same user name.
    I recognized your Cooncreek logo that is the same on your other user.
    I have seen the Mcgriffert Loader and actually have talked to you about it through e mails.

    As to the Surry Parker I will have to check around about that.
    Are there any site you know of that have info on the loader?

    Eric
  6. Steam Donkey

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    Lidgerwood Tower Skidder

    Hi Eric,

    I'm mostly a lurker around these parts, but this time I think I may be able to help!

    What you have is a photo of is a Lidgerwood Tower Skidder. In my opinion, one of the most fascinating pieces of logging equipment ever assembled. The link below has all of the answers to your questions.

    http://www.steaminthewoods.com/towerskidders.htm

    If you happen to have a spare $1,281.00 US laying around, you may be interested in the model from PCS. Makes me drool everytime I look at it! :cool:

    http://www.railmodel.com/search/picturelink.asp?productid=5287

    Stan
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    Hello HO Modeler, and welcome to "The Gauge".

    Surry Parkers were much, much smaller than the unit you pictured. An article and plans ran in the May/June 2003 Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette. McGifferts were also much smaller. One is on display at the Lake Superior Transportation Museum in Duluth, MN, by the way. I have been fortunate enough to have visited that one in person a number of years ago.

    The machine in the photo is a tower skidder. These used a compound engine and usually combined loading and skidding functions in one unit, had large crews, and were a strictly high-production, big-time unit. They weigh up to 172,000 lbs. and can handle around 125,000 board-feet per day. Manufactirers included Lidgerwood, Clyde Iron Works, and, I believe, Willamette Iron & Steel Works and Washington Iron Works. The distinctive feature is the steel tower (works like a spar tree) between the boiler's stack and the front of the unit. These monsters were huge. The towers were 75-120 feet tall. The best reference I've run across is "In Search of Steam Donkeys" by Merv Johnson (c. 1988 by author and publihed by Timber Times, Hillsboro, OR). Overland produced a brass model in HO (cost around $1,000.00) and long ago, Paige Enterprise made some type of HO white metal and wood model.

    They're quite a machine!
    --Stu--
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    Well Stan (Steam Donkey) you really have gone and done it now, with all that info from the link you posted I might just have to scratchbuild one for fun:D

    Shamus
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    hehehe...Shamus, I was hoping you were going to say that! :D

    If you do that kind of model making just for fun...I'd love to see what you can do when you get serious! ;)

    Stan
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    I agree with Stu and he's already sited the NGSL issue. I was thinking it was a 2 part series, but could be mistaken. Surry Parker was made and used in Southern logging, and would make a great project for a smaller operation, esp. in NG.

    http://www.ncroots.com/Beaufort/pinetowncata.htm

    In defense of the little Surry Parker, there is a picture of one in the NGSL artical that is absolutely huge (permanantly mounted for transfers) :D

    Edit: I have to correct myself, :confused: :confused: :confused: I think there was a Timber Times 2 part article. I'll have to look and see. Dain Bramage :(
  11. Ho Modeler

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    To Shamus

    Shamus

    If you ever get around to building one. If you find information on te size and specifications of the machine could you post them or e mail them i would like to build one but as of yet have not found a link on the size of these huge machines or a clear enough or lare enough picture to warrant scratchbuilding off of.

    And sizes would be helpfull

    Eric
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    Geeze Stan, that's $81 over the whole P-K budget for next year! And this years budget is already spent! :D :D :D
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    WEBSITES

    Does anyone have the links to some of these places that sell these huge machines in scale model. Hopefully in HO.

    Eric
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    Loader & Skidder Plans

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    Re: Loader & Skidder Plans

    Marc, How does one go about contacting Bill Roy? Do you have a link? I'm always interested in plans and plan-sets! Thanks.
    --Stu--
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    McKenzie Iron & Steel

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    Thanks Marc

    Thanks for you information Marc it is much appreciated.
    You said you had a Williamette publishing which includes a much larger model. Is there any way you could post those photos or e mail them to me?

    Eric
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    Willamette "Titanic" Skidder

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    Thanks, Marc.

    Hello Marc. Thank you for the "Timberbeast" info. Yes, I realize that, in any scale, that Lidgerwood would dwarf nearly anything around it. I'd still like a set of plans for one; they fascinate me! The other sets of plans for Clyde skidders, etc. seem much better proportioned to my layout. My freelanced HO layout depicts northern Wisconsin ca. 1947 in the Crandon-Argonne-Hiles area. I do not own a digital camera at present--waiting until I upgrade my somewhat old PC, hopefully later this year. The layout has the benchwork and subroadbed in place now. It is being built in my 13 ft. X 12 ft. den and is of the around-the-walls walk-in type. Since I work fairly slowly, most of the next year will be spent on bridges and track. That's slow stuuf anyway, since I build most of my own turnouts. Current projects include the aforementioned plus the depot for the lumber company town of Daniels (fictitious). I need the depot and a couple of other structures finished in order to lay out this scene at the entrance to the train room. The depot is built from the Bar Mills Scale Models "Whistle Stop Jct." kit with many, many added details.

    My present Crandon & Northern layout is my third HO layout to depict logging. I learned as I went--the first was pretty simple, using small rod locos and MDC log cars back in the 80's. Both of the first two layouts came down with moves. They simply would not fit the space available in the new places. Since I enjoy working with craftsman kits, I've been acquiring the "pieces" for this one over the last twenty years. It amazes me how much more is available now. It's all been done on a budget, so being slow can be a blessing! I'll eventually get some pics up, but it will be a while. Besides, plywood and lumber is not all that interesting to look at.

    Thanks again for the plans info!
    --Stu--
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    Lidgerwood skidder

    Incase anyone didn't know, the skidder that "ho modler" was asking about is on display at the camp six logging museum at point defiance park in tacoma washington. I have many photo's of this. There is also a plaque on it that tells a bit about it's history and who owned it.