GRRR its been a week and I have spent over 500$ in cars + engines and maybe 200$ in buildings and track... and I still cant choose a layout that I want to go with!! I have this Atlas "NINE N scale railroads" and I dont like any of them.. I want to either go with a 3ft x 6ft or 4ft x 8ft layout.. I need a big switch yard to store all my trains.. also I want to have a nice sized Kato commuter station, maybe a 2nd one.. a track of homes and some industrial buildings with car loading platforms.. like Coal, wood, freight storage etc... I really hate having to go with a rectangle peice of plywood, and would rather go with a "along the wall" type layout.. but I dont have room for that.. if any of you know a way I can go with maybe an L shaped layout thats maybe 2.5 - 3ft from the wall and maybe 7-6 ft in each direction.. but I would have a problem with looping the train back around.. this is my first layout.. and I want to do things right the first time.. so I dont kick myself in the butt later on in the future... I also want to try and avoid using software to make my layout.. something with pictures, on an already made layout would be cool.. I would hate to copy someones style..I dunno this is coming from a guy.. who spends hours in the train store.. and cant decide what he wants to buy :sleeping: so if any of you have any pointers to making a good layout that will suite my needs lemmie know.. oh ya.. I want to avoid having just a plane flat layout.. I want it to be bi leveled, I dont mean double decker layout. but just higher grades around the layout.. with bridges..but I also dont want the layout cluttered with tons of track.. the layout would also have to support commuter passenger cars.. I have the new Athearn F59PHI with 3 bombadier cars(metrolink) and also Just ordered 2 P42 genisis with an 8 car superliner fleet and they are pretty long suckers.. so my corner radius cant be that tight.. I live on the west coast, (southern california to be exact) if that helps anything.. my era is going to be somewhat modern, like 80-90 and some 2000?